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    Smart isn't going to drop out of top 10; he's too good a player, and frankly a player popping off at a fan who called him a racial slur is hardly a stain on his character.

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    Not the first time that "superfan" has done that kind of thing either
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    The thing is, what we see as the top 10 could change so dramatically after the Chicago combines...Perry Jones, Sullinger, were guys that everyone thought would be lottery picks, but they dropped so unexpectedly at the draft. Not saying that it will happen to Smart, but sometimes you wonder who outside of the top 5 are sure things. Seems to happen every draft too that guys you think are sure things fall as far as the second roung...who was that PG everyone was in love with that didn't even get drafted a couple seasons ago...fak this is going to bug me.

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    Quote Mediumcore wrote: View Post
    The thing is, what we see as the top 10 could change so dramatically after the Chicago combines...Perry Jones, Sullinger, were guys that everyone thought would be lottery picks, but they dropped so unexpectedly at the draft. Not saying that it will happen to Smart, but sometimes you wonder who outside of the top 5 are sure things. Seems to happen every draft too that guys you think are sure things fall as far as the second roung...who was that PG everyone was in love with that didn't even get drafted a couple seasons ago...fak this is going to bug me.
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    Quote Mediumcore wrote: View Post
    The thing is, what we see as the top 10 could change so dramatically after the Chicago combines...Perry Jones, Sullinger, were guys that everyone thought would be lottery picks, but they dropped so unexpectedly at the draft. Not saying that it will happen to Smart, but sometimes you wonder who outside of the top 5 are sure things. Seems to happen every draft too that guys you think are sure things fall as far as the second roung...who was that PG everyone was in love with that didn't even get drafted a couple seasons ago...fak this is going to bug me.
    Scott Machado?
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    Quote mediumcore wrote: View Post
    the thing is, what we see as the top 10 could change so dramatically after the chicago combines...perry jones, sullinger, were guys that everyone thought would be lottery picks, but they dropped so unexpectedly at the draft. Not saying that it will happen to smart, but sometimes you wonder who outside of the top 5 are sure things. Seems to happen every draft too that guys you think are sure things fall as far as the second roung...who was that pg everyone was in love with that didn't even get drafted a couple seasons ago...fak this is going to bug me.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Scott Machado?
    Yes Machado! and thanks for saving me a day of being annoyed. Not that Machado was a sure fire lottery pick, but so many people were sure he'd go first round...didn't even get drafted, got invided to summer camp, given a chance with the Rockets I beleive, and I don't think he's in the league anymore...maybe D-League.

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    Hoops thoughts from Seth Davis at SI. Hits on the Marcus Smart fall-out and some other quick hits (link at bottom)

    "Michigan State sophomore guard Gary Harris turned in the best 3-for-20 game I've ever seen during Sunday's loss at Wisconsin. The only reason Harris had to shoot so much was because Keith Appling was out with an injured wrist. Despite his shooting woes (and Wisconsin guard Josh Gasser had much to do with that), Harris still got seven rebounds and three steals, and he made a key jumper late. Yes, he got beat by Traevon Jackson's game-winner, but if you're making a list of guards who play both ends of the floor well, you'd better have Harris right near the top -- even when he's having a bad shooting game."

    "During his first 17 games, Andrew Wiggins did not have a single game in which he shot at least 10 free throws. During his last six games, he has reached that threshold three times. Looks like the kid is starting to figure it out."

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    Quote Axel wrote: View Post
    "During his first 17 games, Andrew Wiggins did not have a single game in which he shot at least 10 free throws. During his last six games, he has reached that threshold three times. Looks like the kid is starting to figure it out."
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    I'm pretty confident that he'll step his game up in March or in the NBA. He's got the same symptoms that Drummond had, me thinks.

    I think his floor is Andre Iguodala.

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    Another nugget from that article. Interview with Coach Boeheim.

    SI.com: Let's start with your freshman point guard, Tyler Ennis. Everyone knew he would be good, but no one knew he was this good. When did you start to realize it?

    Boeheim: We played an exhibition tour in Canada last summer against some really good teams. We had one close game, and he took it over. We came from 10 points behind and won. I knew he was pretty good, but that was the first indication that he could be real good.

    SI.com: It's odd because he's not that big and not that quick. So what makes him so effective?

    Boeheim: He's just calm. Things don't bother him. He has good instincts, so when he sees a play isn't working, he knows he has to make a play. And he gets to the rim. I don't know how, but he's good at that.

    SI.com: Do you think he'll turn pro after the season is over?

    Boeheim: I don't think so
    . I think he knows and his father knows that he's a really good college player. He has to become a better shooter and get stronger to go to the next level. He'd go in the first round, but look at the number of first-round picks who are already out of the league in the last two years. It's a huge number."

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    Is it?

    TRB%
    Amir Johnson: 13.3%
    Jonas Valanciunas: 17.6%

    BLK%
    Amir Johnson: 3.2%
    Jonas Valanciunas: 2.7%

    DRtg
    Amir Johnson: 103
    Jonas Valanciunas: 103

    DWS
    Amir Johnson: 2.0
    Jonas Valanciunas: 2.0


    Looks like they're both doing their part. Which seems exactly right for this team - everyone pulling in the same direction.

    Now give JV more than 111 games.
    Since Dec 8th:

    With JV on the court and Amir sitting; Team DRTG 112.2
    With Amir on the court and JV sitting; Team DRTG 104.3

    Just saying. JV's my favourite player, but he's got a long way to go until he's a defensive anchor.

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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    Since Dec 8th:

    With JV on the court and Amir sitting; Team DRTG 112.2
    With Amir on the court and JV sitting; Team DRTG 104.3

    Just saying. JV's my favourite player, but he's got a long way to go until he's a defensive anchor.
    My argument wasn't that JV is a defensive anchor currently, but simply that we don't really have one, and to write him off as being incapable this early in his career is silly.
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    We need a 2016 draft thread

    Giannis disagrees; He thinks Kostas could be even better than him.

    “I think he’s going to be the best of our family,’’ Giannis said before Saturday night’s Bucks game against Toronto at the BMO Harris Bradley Center. “He’s the best shooter in the family and he’s athletic like all of the Antetokounmpos.

    “He’s been playing the game a long time. He knows how to play.’’

    The younger Antetokounmpo, who is 15, will be a teammate of Dominican center Diamond Stone, who is regarded by some college recruiters as the best player in the junior class in the country.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    We need a 2016 draft thread



    He has grown 2" since November
    What year do we own the knicks pick 2016? Lets hope Melo leaves and they suck
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    Quote 4hunnit_degreez wrote: View Post
    What year do we own the knicks pick 2016? Lets hope Melo leaves and they suck
    We'll have to hope nuggets suck too.

    Nuggets get right to switch with sloppy seconds going to toronto
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    We'll have to hope nuggets suck too.

    Nuggets get right to switch with sloppy seconds going to toronto
    Ujiri should have done some roster sabotaging before leaving Denver ahha Trading Ty lawson for vasquez and other bad moves and then bam hes the raps GM
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    Quote 4hunnit_degreez wrote: View Post
    Ujiri should have done some roster sabotaging before leaving Denver ahha Trading Ty lawson for vasquez and other bad moves and then bam hes the raps GM
    How bout firing the Coach of the Year and letting Iguodala leave for nothing? Cuz they did do that. Lol
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    Embiid has played 24 games and about 22 minutes per.

    Now, the reason that Kansas State got so many layups is a bit more difficult to work through. The obvious answer is that Joel Embiid was out of the game for much of the second half. He’s been dealing with a knee issue since the TCU game two weeks ago and a back issue since Saturday’s win against West Virginia. Bill Self said after the game there’s a chance he might sit out some games.

    “Joel is beat up,” Self said after Embiid’s third-straight game in which he played less than 18 minutes. “I’m not going to make one excuse for him, because if you’re out there you have to perform. But certainly, he’s going to get some time off.”
    http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspor...-kansas-state/

    And he is beat up?

    How is he going to handle 82 games? I guess when still growing and adjusting to physical play you need to be patient but I'd be worried if I was a GM. Large kids carrying a heavy load creates wear and stress just by walking around.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Embiid has played 24 games and about 22 minutes per.



    http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspor...-kansas-state/

    And he is beat up?

    How is he going to handle 82 games? I guess when still growing and adjusting to physical play you need to be patient but I'd be worried if I was a GM. Large kids carrying a heavy load creates wear and stress just by walking around.
    That's why all 7' college kids are getting segways at some schools.

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