Just imagine if we had Drummond and JV as 'assets' and we tanked to a top 5 pick in 2014 draft. Then, it actually becomes possible to put together a package our our pick + JV or Drummond to get Wiggins + a lower pick. A rebuilding team like Philly would definitely consider it.
And regarding the reasons why BC passed on Drummond - that's been documented. Colangelo had Drummond ranked as a top 5 talent. WTF?!
BC on Primetime (explaining why he passed on Drummond):
"There’s a checklist: talent, physical tools, basketball IQ, how they perform, how we anticipate they’ll perform. Character. Emotional make-up. Marketability. Each component is part of the process. The toughest is what’s inside a player. You can’t see the heart, the emotional aspect of things.
Picking eighth, I passed on somebody I consider a top-five talent in the draft because we felt like he didn’t have the right mental makeup. I passed on someone we thought was a top-three physical specimen because we felt he wasn’t the right fit for our team and didn’t have the right mental makeup."
Translation: Drummond failed the Caliper Test. LOL.
Last edited by golden; Tue Oct 15th, 2013 at 11:19 AM.
Because, when Minnesota selected 3pg's with their 3 first round picks, that worked out so well for them? Selecting best player available only works to a certain extent.
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When the rest of the league knows you need to make a trade, you don't get good value back, end of story. That means we couldn't have traded him before the season started. And if he wasn't traded in the summer, he'd have been the 5th big off the bench, playing mostly garbage time, and he wouldn't be viewed the same way he is now.
I mean, we supposedly drafted 'NBA-ready shooter' Ross for need and he ended up on the bench behind Alan Anderson in the rotation (go figure). Then, after trading Ed Davis and with Bargs going down, suddenly we have a lack of quality big man. The so-called "need" ended up being exactly the opposite (big vs. wing).
Point being that roster situations can change quickly, but high demand for talented young big men as a trade asset, especially on rookie contracts, does not.
There are risks associated with every draft pick - just like Drummond had them so did Ross, Rivers, Sullinger whoever. I know people love point to Drummond and saying people questioned X or Y - but they do that with everyone. The talk just happens more often the higher of a pick a player is expected to be because they get more attention.
We also shouldn't forget that for every person that thought he was the next DeAndre Jordan, there was another thinking he was the next Dwight Howard. Drummonds rookie season didn't come as a suprise to everyone.
I posted this in another thread so I won't repeat it here (link), but passing on Drummond was an absolutely terrible risk vs reward move.
There was nothing forcing the Raptors to do anything had they draft Drummond and then trade him later. (Not that I'd be for that)
And then again, who is Colangelo to be speaking as an authority on 'mental makeup' of a player, especially if it's being used to override top 5 talent available at the 8 spot. We spent 7+ yrs building around Mr. 'off the charts' Caliper Test himself.
There's no way to know for sure, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that if BC had taken Drummond his phone would have instantly started ringing off the hook. Drummond was coveted by other GM's, and when you have a coveted asset, you have flexibility.
Instead, he took Ross, and Joe Dumars did a little dance. There was probably some champagne as well. Just sayin.
Soooo... Ross was pretty good in the game tonight
You come at the King, you best not miss.
Let him do this every night. I'd be happy.
Best part about him after his shots started falling and Knicks were honoring his catch and shoot 3 < remember that term its important. Ross did a nice drive to the hoop cause Knicks played him too close, if he can get a go to shot and make it consistent that shit will open up for him and hes a legitimate 6th man. With Ross its a confidence and desire thing not a talent or skill thing.
DeRozan is seeing the benefits of a respectable catch and shoot 3 in his arsenal paying off for him now.
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