View Poll Results: How bad do you want to see the Raptors tank/rebuild/blow it up/build through draft?

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  • Trade Lowry, Gay, DD at all costs! Getthem off the roster and books, the faster the better!

    3 6.38%
  • Only trade them if you get valuable assets in return.

    44 93.62%
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Thread: A new take on tanking - opponents of this need not click this thread

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    Default A new take on tanking - opponents of this need not click this thread

    Tanking, rebuilding, building through the draft, blowing it up, whatever you want to call it is semantics; the end result is the Raptors lose a lot of games.

    If you are dead set against tanking, get out of here! There is nothing for you to say that has not already been said and another debate of the merits or pitfalls of the building strategy is REALLY not needed.

    I don't think I've seen a thread on this perspective so here goes.


    A lot of people who are against tanking use the argument or protest against it saying assets such as Lowry, DD, or Gay would be traded for expiring contracts - and that is it. The classic example is Stuckey/CV for Gay that was floated over the summer. Personally, I'm all for blowing it up but not if it means trading assets for nothing. Established NBA talent, picks, and cap space in any combination is a minimum. Valuable assets need to be returned. As bad as Gay's contract may be, it is still over in 2014-15. We're not talking Joe Johnson here.


    So my question:

    How bad do you want to see the Raptors tank/rebuild/blow it up/build through draft?
    Trade Lowry, Gay, DD at all costs for anything that rids them off the roster and books, faster the better!
    Only trade them if you get assets of value in return. If not, stay the course.



    *For all the eternal optimists out there, maybe this divides and allows you to conquer the tankers!*
    Last edited by mcHAPPY; Tue Oct 22nd, 2013 at 06:50 PM.
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    can I be an optimistic tanker? As in for sure we can get something more than expiring contracts for lowry and dd. I would be fine taking the consequences that come with tanking later in the season because between exum (who I really like now), parker, wiggins, smart, randle etc. this draft is damn stacked and I think we can still get a record that can net us one of these players even if we unload later in the season. Remember not every fan base is the raptors, where they can afford to lose a bunch of games and piss off the faithful, Ujiri your move.
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    Quote akashsingh wrote: View Post
    can I be an optimistic tanker? As in for sure we can get something more than expiring contracts for lowry and dd. I would be fine taking the consequences that come with tanking later in the season because between exum (who I really like now), parker, wiggins, smart, randle etc. this draft is damn stacked because I think we can still get a record that can net us one of these players. Ujiri your move.
    Not to mention the guys who come out of nowhere.

    Then you have the really intriguing C's like Joel Embiid, Cauley-Stein, and Austin who teams always reach for and are likely to push any of those previously mentioned players lower.

    The Raptors can start a true rebuild with their starting C in place for the next 7-8 years who is just 21. For all the talk of joining the Sacramento's, Minnesota's, etc. neither of those teams had that on their roster when they decided to start a rebuild. That is a piece you are tanking with hopes to obtain.

    Also, there is the issue of management with those teams. If you think the current management is inept, I can see why you would be weary of taking a few steps back to take many more forward.
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    Is this a legit choice topic? Seriously, who with a modicum of grey matter is going to say unload those 3 at all costs? This is just to reinforce the "get assets and tank" concept, right? I just don't see it serving any other purpose, sorry.

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    Quote p00ka wrote: View Post
    Is this a legit choice topic? Seriously, who with a modicum of grey matter is going to say unload those 3 at all costs? This is just to reinforce the "get assets and tank" concept, right? I just don't see it serving any other purpose, sorry.
    no reading comprehension I see.