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Thread: The Ultimate Debate: Is Led Zeppelin A Metal Band?

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    This reminds me of the "Are the Beastie Boys punk or hip hop?" argument

    think about that one for a few minutes..

    really think about it...

    make sure you have a well formed opinion before you continue reading past this point..

    seriously.. are you sure?

    the correct answer is...

    IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER

    genres are bullshit... good music is good music... regardless of the labels you put on them.
    it's true genres are bullshit because "grunge", what the hell is "grunge"? It's not a type of music..it was a movement that was labelled in pop-culture as "grunge". Grunge is not the type of music that those bands that were so diverse played.
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    Definitely need to relax a bit chris.

    One could argue its rather ignorant of you to say that Metal HAS TO BE "scary" sounding.
    When I think of Heavy Metal I think of LOUD and DISTORTED and FAST.
    Not really slow and scary. So to each their own.
    okay yeah sorry i mighta had a couple of bourbons last night and got a little feisty about something near and dear to my cold black heart.

    a riff doesn't need to be slow and scary to be metal. of course a lot of metal riffs are as you described. metal has evolved in a thousand different directions since 1969.

    but what is a fact here is that very slow, very downtuned, heavy as hell and evil sounding riffs are characteristic only of music that is metal, and no one had made one before that song. nothing zeppelin did became a staple to the genre, unless you think they invented playing at volume.

    plus they're missing the aesthetic i mentioned earlier, which is integral. they were an influence but not the jumping off point.

    and with that i'm gonna duck out of this conversation

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    BTW, on the login page of this forum, under the login form, beside the login button, there is a button that says "Reset Fields"...

    Has anybody tried pushing it? Might fix his shot.
    I actually laughed out reading that. Thanks Quirk.

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    Quote chris wrote: View Post
    okay yeah sorry i mighta had a couple of bourbons last night and got a little feisty about something near and dear to my cold black heart.
    ......
    and with that i'm gonna duck out of this conversation
    Oh I don't mean to discourage passionate debate; that was not at all my intent. By all means, fight to the death what you believe, just maybe leave out the personal attacks. Other than that, bring it on!

    Quote chris wrote: View Post
    a riff doesn't need to be slow and scary to be metal. of course a lot of metal riffs are as you described. metal has evolved in a thousand different directions since 1969.

    but what is a fact here is that very slow, very downtuned, heavy as hell and evil sounding riffs are characteristic only of music that is metal, and no one had made one before that song. nothing zeppelin did became a staple to the genre, unless you think they invented playing at volume.

    plus they're missing the aesthetic i mentioned earlier, which is integral. they were an influence but not the jumping off point.
    Great points. As many have mentioned, in this regards I'd say its fair to say Sabbath and Zeppelin are peers in a common cause.

    And for the record, Zeppelin wasn't just louder; they were faster, meaner and more aggressive than any 'rock' to that point.
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    Zep = Blues for me.
    Sabbath = Metal.

    When I think Zep, I think sex.
    When I think Sabbath, I think something something devil, something black stuff.

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    Quote Craig wrote: View Post
    Zep = Blues for me.
    Sabbath = Metal.

    When I think Zep, I think sex.
    When I think Sabbath, I think something something devil, something black stuff.
    Jimmy Page was actually into devil worship and shit like that, he was obsessed with aleister Crowley.. He was the real deal when it came to something devil, and black stuff.. Ozzy saw this and he thought it was cool so he faked it for an image, he wasn't really into it, he just exaggerated what he saw from zeppelin.

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    Ya, I know. Just what comes to mind is all.


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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Most modern metal bands are talentless hacks when compared to the likes of Zep in their prime. Maybe most of these modern metal bands should be sub-categorized into a new genre? We could call it "feces metal" or "half digested generic metal"?
    +1000000000

    does anyone watch revolution here?

    season two had a great zepplin reference where one guy was hitting on a chick, charlie, and told her the power came on for a couple minutes and the jukebox played "ramble on" and he mistook it for gods voice.
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