Too early for this talk.
A touch more mellow / less critical than myself.
To me, it has nothing to do with wins or losses, and it doesn't start with the 2013/2014 regular season.
The qualms I have with the man are the same I had last season, and in pre-season.
Like I said, judging a coach is different from judging a player.
Frankly, I don't think teams should be patient with coaches beyond the getting to know each other stage.
You can't wait for a coach to learn how to implement offensive sets.
If he can't, he's not good enough.
It's not an impulsive move because of timing, it's just decisive. I don't think it makes us have to question anything. If Casey is obviously wrong for the team, and Masai decides to keep him the whole year, that raises more questions to me than firing him at an earlier juncture.
(How many coaches last 3 full seasons period?)
I'm really confused by this sentiment.
Casey was on thin ice coming into the season.
Some of you are really buying into this "Colangelo wouldn't let me coach" argument.
Who cares what happened in the past, and when?
Is he a good coach, or not?
Nothing else matters.
What I've learned is that he's no different from the past 2 years and a half.
That's the problem.
And there was plenty of talk about it in preseason.
I'm not trying to pick on you, it just doesn't make sense to me.
I don't care about his feelings, and Masai certainly doesn't care how it would make him look.
It's about having a good coach.
Wittman with the now 0 - 2 Wiz is probably on a short leash and so is their GM. They lost their home opener to the 76ers.
Does Popovich have anymore assistants left?
Masai has a plan, that we don't know about. Casey was part of this plan, you change your plan after 2 games, it couldn't have been that good of a plan.
"You donít know the Bruno Caboclo......"Bruno Caboclo
I been trying to say this for how long now?
coach sucks at developing players
if theirs one person to blame when Ross doesn't reach his ceiling its coach Casey
I'm pretty sure if he left Toronto, Ross would put up at least 12 points a night
we're lucky derozan didn't have Casey around when he was a rookie other wise he wouldn't have been what he is now
if you want your players to feel like their shit and have no confidence stepping on to the floor, keep casey
i dont even get why reporters even bother to interview this man, you already know hes gonna say the same shit *blahblah..development..blahblah..important..long term..blahblah....jv..blahblah*
im not saying he needs to go im just saying he needs to respect his players especially the young guys
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What they got to say now? Nothing they can say now. Mobbin' on the low. Winnin' on the lowThe city embraced me, made me feel at home. The only difference [between Compton and Toronto] for me is the cold. -DeMarNo Where Near the South Side #WeTheNorth
But still, like you said, we don't know the plan.
He never openly stated that Casey was his guy.
On the contrary, when Masai came in it was a big question-mark whether he would keep him.
To me, and I believe most in the organization, the decision to keep him was in-line with the only plan he really has spoken of: Wait and see. He didn't say how long. It was a trial, and I don't think making a decision at this point would come off as rash.
I think Masai commands more respect than that.
Hey may not be the first, but you can be sure it's a matter of time.
If he stays on, it's a matter of strategy and nothing more.
"You donít know the Bruno Caboclo......"Bruno Caboclo
Well people were saying it in May. People were also unsure of the impact Colangelo had on coaching. I'm sure Ujiri is included there. So wanting to see how he does things without any meddling is natural. Casey seemed to not be great for player growth last year, but everyone including him used Bargs and BC as excuses, among other things.
As for letting him coach and judging him "when it's done". Nothing along those lines was ever stated. Ujiri did suggest he wouldn't meddle. That doesn't mean it gives Casey 82 games to prove something.
As for the interim coach, usually that comes from within the team, so it doesn't really suggest that any guy is "leaving a comfy job to come here". It likely means an assistant gets to try head coaching for the first time. And when future employers look at that they will acknowledge that part of the situation. You don't actually seem to get it. For an assistant to suddenly be able to put "NBA head coach" on his resume, even with the losses, which again, any manager would acknowledge was part of the team's situation, it will look good for him, especially if he seems to do more with the team than his predecessor. It doesn't stain his resume in any way.
And finally, the last regime, the problem wasn't regarding coaches, it was regarding players. Colangelo never went 2 seasons in a row with the same "core". It in no way would affect Masai's credibility. In no way does it point to him going back on his word. Masai said he would be in "wait and see" mode, but the point of that isn't too wait as long as possible, it's just to take decisive action when you're confident in your assessment. I can't see it taking more than a couple of months for Masai to determine what pieces he thinks he'd like to keep together player-wise, and also whether the coach is the right man to get the most out of them. This isn't a sign of constant change, or stupid impulses, it's a sign of finally wanting to stop that trend, and start from scratch. You can't do that without more change, and that's just a simple fact.
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