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Nosike wrote: View PostYeah that's actually my qualm with it because Shumpert isn't THAT good of a prospect. The problem is the Knicks can't trade any more of their picks. And their only other prospect of merit is also a 2.
Felton
Smith
Gay
Anthony
Chandler
It isn't the team I'd want, but it's interesting. They'd have a quickness advantage at the four and a size advantage at the three essentially every night. And by keeping Lowry, it isn't as much of a transparent tank job.
Really, which team would say no to this trade? Are we still not getting enough back?"Stop eating your sushi."
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NY may ask for a lot from any Shumpert trade.. more than he's probably worth. He was really good in his first year but after he tore his ACL I don't know if he's the same guy he once was. So there is risk there.
Because Shumpert has a rookie contract, NY will most likely want to bundle someone like Amare with him in any trade.. That automatically makes any trade really bad also. Amare has the worst contract in the NBA. He can't play and has 2 years of guaranteed money at $21M and $23M. He can opt out like Gay can in his final year, but this may be his last big contract. I don't think he opts out. At least Gay can play. Once you get Amare you are stuck with his contract for at least 2 years. Even when you tank that's throwing your flexibility out the door. No way would I take him just to take Shumpert.
If they consider trading someone like Felton with him then I could get convinced to trade for him. Lowry for Felton/Shumpert works. Felton has a pretty good contract for 3 years at about $3M per. His final year is a player option. He's a good veteran PG that won't really move the dial for Toronto with respect to wins/losses. He should also be easy to move to a contender who might need a PG for insurance. NY might consider that a laugher though but Lowry will have an expiring contract which can help them in the offseason. Toronto could throw in a 2nd round pick.. other than that, there really isn't anything to talk about unless you want to swap Shumpert with Ross.
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JimiCliff wrote: View PostYou have to figure the Knicks would think long and hard at just Gay alone for Shumpert and Stat.
Felton
Smith
Gay
Anthony
Chandler
It isn't the team I'd want, but it's interesting. They'd have a quickness advantage at the four and a size advantage at the three essentially every night. And by keeping Lowry, it isn't as much of a transparent tank job.
Really, which team would say no to this trade? Are we still not getting enough back?
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JawsGT wrote: View PostSmith, Gay, and Melo in the starting lineup? if DD and Gay can't work, how would this?"Stop eating your sushi."
"I do actually have a pair of Uggs."
"I've had three cups of green tea tonight. I'm wired. I'm absolutely wired."
- Jack Armstrong
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Nosike wrote: View PostI wonder though, would the Knicks bite on:
Gay
Lowry
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Shumpert
STAT
Melo was more effective at the 4 than the 3 by most metrics last year, this would leave them with a lineup of
Lowry
JR Smith
Gay
Melo
Chandler
With Felton and Bargnani coming off the bench. It's better than what they have now and they'd also free themselves of STAT's contract.
STAT can hardly play so we'd just sit him all year and run Shumpert at PG. We'd be able to really get the tank revved up with a lineup of
Shumpert
Ross
DD
Amir
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planetmars wrote: View PostThat's actually interesting.. we get to dump Fields early, get a reasonable asset in Shumpert and be closer to tanking. I just don't see MU being able to explain this trade to the media/fans without using the word tank.
Valanciunas/Johnson/Gray
Stoudemire/Hansbrough/Acy
Shumpert/Novak/Daye
DeRozan/Ross/Stone
Lowry/Buycks/Augustin
Maybe we could get picks out of this trade too?
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Guys, the Amare/Rudy trade where we get Shumpert is a terrible idea on so many levels.
1.) We have to take Amar'e, who should really just retire already
2.) Shumpert is not playing like he did in his rookie year - like, at all - and we should learn our lesson about hoping players reclaim their rookie form already
3.) New York has no picks to give, like, at all
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charlesnba23 wrote: View PostRudy + Fields for Amare and Shumpert.Twitter - @thekid_it
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