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    I agree with you about wanting to see our guys with their heads high for once, but if we have one of these franchise caliber prospects in next years draft on our team, we will be holding our heads high much much more often. And if it is Wiggins, more than likely he will not bolt when his rookie contract comes up. I hate losing too, but I will lose if it means we will be better for years to come. Just my opinion.
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    Quote mjmc wrote: View Post
    I agree with you about wanting to see our guys with their heads high for once, but if we have one of these franchise caliber prospects in next years draft on our team, we will be holding our heads high much much more often. And if it is Wiggins, more than likely he will not bolt when his rookie contract comes up. I hate losing too, but I will lose if it means we will be better for years to come. Just my opinion.
    Understood but even if we finish last which we won't we most likely will not get Wiggins. Let him go to Utah get frustrated by losing then leave for Toronto. Or better yet pull a John Elway or Eric Lindros. Lol.

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    Except both yours, and the post your are enamored about, are posts that show clearly that you have no fucking idea what people mean by "tank". Tank, is just a catch word for "proper and thorough rebuild". It isn't a new thing, and it isn't anything more than prudent and wise planning for a franchise that want tpo build a team in the modern era that can compete eventually for a title.

    Normally I dn't like tpo be a prick, but today I am, because on countless threads, guys like me have laid out fairly detailed posts about how shit works, and about what a rebuild is. Its like giving directions to the White Castle to a bunch of Zombies though.....people just simply can't fucking understand the concepts, or the climates involved for franchises who are trying to build business plans for winning.

    This isn't fucking high school ball, or college ball, this is Professional Sports entertainment, and in order to maximize your product, you have to take major steps back at times to utilize the system that is set up to help teams grow.

    FUCK ME, would you guys PLEASE try to get that through your heads. If you don't like it, fine, thats cool, but for the love of al things good, PLEASE GET IT FUCKING RIGHT AND STOP GETTING ALL ANGSTY ABOUT A SO CALLED TANK.

    Pretty please.
    With Sugar on top.
    Stop the insanity.
    Good post Craig, I own a small home business, just bought something for my business that will set me back in the short term BUT man the future is awesome. People think I am not a fan because I want us to "rebuild". Although I am not a season ticket holder, I have been to over 100 games in the last 5 years and been a suffering fan since the beginning (Im 47 years old).
    With this product I bought for my business, my company will grow. With a top 5 pick in next years draft, the Raps will GROW
    Cheers

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    Quote mjmc wrote: View Post
    Good post Craig, I own a small home business, just bought something for my business that will set me back in the short term BUT man the future is awesome. People think I am not a fan because I want us to "rebuild". Although I am not a season ticket holder, I have been to over 100 games in the last 5 years and been a suffering fan since the beginning (Im 47 years old).
    With this product I bought for my business, my company will grow. With a top 5 pick in next years draft, the Raps will GROW
    Cheers
    I also have a business, and understand the concept of investing in new equipment. My problem with most of the rebuild talk, or tanking, is the amount that has to be sold/removed/replaced in these scenarios. Would I sell most of my good machinery, in order to finance a new machine? That's what tanking talk involves. I would then have to try and make enough money to replace those machines, in order to be in a better situation than I was before. The only way this works for me, in an equal sense, is to keep my best equipment, and add the new, better machine, thus ending up in a better situation. To get a worthwhile pick in this years tankfest, would require such a dismantling, that it could take years to rebuild around the new piece. I would go in debt to add new equipment, but I wouldn't wreck my ability to generate income, in order to get something new. That's the difference to me, between making a costly investment in the future and selling off your stuff to finance a shot at improving.

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    I also have a business, and understand the concept of investing in new equipment. My problem with most of the rebuild talk, or tanking, is the amount that has to be sold/removed/replaced in these scenarios. Would I sell most of my good machinery, in order to finance a new machine? That's what tanking talk involves. I would then have to try and make enough money to replace those machines, in order to be in a better situation than I was before. The only way this works for me, in an equal sense, is to keep my best equipment, and add the new, better machine, thus ending up in a better situation. To get a worthwhile pick in this years tankfest, would require such a dismantling, that it could take years to rebuild around the new piece. I would go in debt to add new equipment, but I wouldn't wreck my ability to generate income, in order to get something new. That's the difference to me, between making a costly investment in the future and selling off your stuff to finance a shot at improving.
    You should start a thread to try to explain this to all the tankers on this site. You are bang on.

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    Quote Ion66 wrote: View Post
    I also have a business, and understand the concept of investing in new equipment. My problem with most of the rebuild talk, or tanking, is the amount that has to be sold/removed/replaced in these scenarios. Would I sell most of my good machinery, in order to finance a new machine? That's what tanking talk involves. I would then have to try and make enough money to replace those machines, in order to be in a better situation than I was before. The only way this works for me, in an equal sense, is to keep my best equipment, and add the new, better machine, thus ending up in a better situation. To get a worthwhile pick in this years tankfest, would require such a dismantling, that it could take years to rebuild around the new piece. I would go in debt to add new equipment, but I wouldn't wreck my ability to generate income, in order to get something new. That's the difference to me, between making a costly investment in the future and selling off your stuff to finance a shot at improving.
    But if most of your machinery is actually sub-standard, such that it will not allow you to be able to produce the same high-quality product that the marketplace demands to be truly competitive in the upper echelons of that industry...

    ...then you may have to make some difficult short term decisions with respect to that sub-standard machinery.

    That is, if you have your eyes on the upper echelons.

    And if not: well, keep on making garbage, I guess.

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    This thread has gone completely off-topic, so I'm just going to post this Soundgarden song that has about as much relevancy to the thread than what all you guys are saying..
    If Your Uncle Jack Helped You Off An Elephant, Would You Help Your Uncle Jack Off An Elephant?

    Sometimes, I like to buy a book on CD and listen to it, while reading music.

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    Quote Ion66 wrote: View Post
    I also have a business, and understand the concept of investing in new equipment. My problem with most of the rebuild talk, or tanking, is the amount that has to be sold/removed/replaced in these scenarios. Would I sell most of my good machinery, in order to finance a new machine? That's what tanking talk involves. I would then have to try and make enough money to replace those machines, in order to be in a better situation than I was before. The only way this works for me, in an equal sense, is to keep my best equipment, and add the new, better machine, thus ending up in a better situation. To get a worthwhile pick in this years tankfest, would require such a dismantling, that it could take years to rebuild around the new piece. I would go in debt to add new equipment, but I wouldn't wreck my ability to generate income, in order to get something new. That's the difference to me, between making a costly investment in the future and selling off your stuff to finance a shot at improving.
    But what if your equipment isn't that good? Sure it's a good name brand, but you don't seem to produce as many units (wins) as you feel you should. So you dig a little deeper and realize that the name brand unit is more costly (cap $) and uses more electricity for a mediocre output (inefficient). You also realize that your assembly line has too many redundancies in it, and that your set-up is both inefficient on an individual unit level, but also a whole system level. What does the smart business man do?

    It's at this point you need to make the business decision to invest in different machines and set-up. You research the current market of machines and perhaps look at what models are coming out next year.

    This is where we are. It's time to accept the reality of our limitations and make smarter decisions.

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    This thread has gone completely off-topic, so I'm just going to post this Soundgarden song that has about as much relevancy to the thread than what all you guys are saying..
    Considering the original intent of your thread, it's kind of funny (and predictable) that it's been hijacked into another tank/rebuild/whatever discussion:


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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    I miss Jeff Healey.


    I just read that they're remaking Roadhouse...WTF
    If Your Uncle Jack Helped You Off An Elephant, Would You Help Your Uncle Jack Off An Elephant?

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    Quote Ion66 wrote: View Post
    I also have a business, and understand the concept of investing in new equipment. My problem with most of the rebuild talk, or tanking, is the amount that has to be sold/removed/replaced in these scenarios. Would I sell most of my good machinery, in order to finance a new machine? That's what tanking talk involves. I would then have to try and make enough money to replace those machines, in order to be in a better situation than I was before. The only way this works for me, in an equal sense, is to keep my best equipment, and add the new, better machine, thus ending up in a better situation. To get a worthwhile pick in this years tankfest, would require such a dismantling, that it could take years to rebuild around the new piece. I would go in debt to add new equipment, but I wouldn't wreck my ability to generate income, in order to get something new. That's the difference to me, between making a costly investment in the future and selling off your stuff to finance a shot at improving.
    Heh, nice thoughts, but not really the same thing.

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    Quote S.R. wrote: View Post
    Considering the original intent of your thread, it's kind of funny (and predictable) that it's been hijacked into another tank/rebuild/whatever discussion:

    My real intent of the thread was to kind of show exactly what's happened to this thread...
    If Your Uncle Jack Helped You Off An Elephant, Would You Help Your Uncle Jack Off An Elephant?

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    I just read that they're remaking Roadhouse...WTF
    Without Swayze and Healey and with Elliot doing Chrysler ads and must be ancient now....I dont know if they should try.

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    Without Swayze and Healey and with Elliot doing Chrysler ads and must be ancient now....I dont know if they should try.
    Sam Elliot is 70 next year, I believe. And doesn't he do Dodge commercials?

    http://www.raptorsrepublic.com/forum...Patrick-Swayze
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    Just 70? Hmmm he looked 70 in the original

    Isnt Dodge a division of Chrysler? To make matters more confusing....Chrysler is now owned by Fiat!

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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    Just 70? Hmmm he looked 70 in the original

    Isnt Dodge a division of Chrysler? To make matters more confusing....Chrysler is now owned by Fiat!
    Yes, Dodge is a division of Chrysler. My bad. But, I think he does strictly RAM commercials. lol

    And yea, he's only 8 years older than Swayze. He looked 20 years older than him in Roadhouse.
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    How's it working for ya, if you tankers are at the same position, EVERY year? Obviously not working out for the cheap thrills dept. smh. What rubs off on me is sport CULTURE...being COMPETITIVE...WIN with a "loser" team, so the vctories help us be mor confident. THAT's what rubs off on me. Losing for losing more is absolutely ass backwards. Period.
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    Quote GameBreaker wrote: View Post
    How's it working for ya, if you tankers are at the same position, EVERY year? Obviously not working out for the cheap thrills dept. smh. What rubs off on me is sport CULTURE...being COMPETITIVE...WIN with a "loser" team, so the vctories help us be mor confident. THAT's what rubs off on me. Losing for losing more is absolutely ass backwards. Period.
    Why did you resurrect a 1.5 month old thread just to spout off poorly written bullshit about "moral victories".

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    Quote GameBreaker wrote: View Post
    How's it working for ya, if you tankers are at the same position, EVERY year? Obviously not working out for the cheap thrills dept. smh. What rubs off on me is sport CULTURE...being COMPETITIVE...WIN with a "loser" team, so the vctories help us be mor confident. THAT's what rubs off on me. Losing for losing more is absolutely ass backwards. Period.
    What in god are you rambling about? Worst attempt at trying to get a rise out of anybody. Nonsensical crying.

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    Quote GameBreaker wrote: View Post
    How's it working for ya, if you tankers are at the same position, EVERY year? Obviously not working out for the cheap thrills dept. smh. What rubs off on me is sport CULTURE...being COMPETITIVE...WIN with a "loser" team, so the vctories help us be mor confident. THAT's what rubs off on me. Losing for losing more is absolutely ass backwards. Period.
    Was this supposed to be in hindsight?
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