1. The Harden trade was unprecedented, a result of the shift to the new CBA which made it impossible for OKC to keep Harden (from their financial standpoint, anyway), is not duplicable, and anyway Houston nearly missed out on Harden anyway because if we had been willing to deal Jonas we probably would have gotten him instead.
2. Right now Houston is desperately trying to seek trade partners so they can move Omer Asik and they're trading at a disadvantage because everybody knows Asik wants out, because Houston signed a center on the promise that he would start, he gave them a career year and then they signed Dwight. Which is not to say signing Dwight was a bad move, but Houston's planning is far from perfect because now they are stuck with Asik and no opportunity to get a true rebounding PF (their last real need) unless they move him at a serious loss.
I will repeat this as often as is necessary: THERE IS NO "HOUSTON MODEL." Not unless you think getting spectacularly lucky (and the Harden trade was a ridiculous opportunity that Houston rightly recognized as a winning lotto ticket) counts as a "model."
Is anyone else worried that Masai still uses a blackberry? I'm not gonna lie, my confidence is a little shaken...
Last edited by Employee; Thu Dec 5th, 2013 at 05:54 PM.
Eh follow my TWITTER!
For what it's worth, I've at times in the past agreed with both you and Matt52 on various issues, and disagreed just as often with both of you (with you, if I recall, our agreements were mostly last year on the front pages, where I don't go anymore). I don't get the tone you're taking from Matt at all. I think you might consider that you've taken that one particular 'relationship'/'rivalry'/whatever a little too personal, and in the long course of your mutual back-and-forth, it's taken on a life that it never really had. Just something to consider.
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I say if Gay, DeRozan and Lowry aren't all wearing different jerseys by December 15th, we fire Masai.
Sick of this wait-and-see. TAKE ACTION!
Look at the Suns. They have traded a slew of bodies for picks and have sacrificed for the future but they are still miles better than the Raptors and their collection of WIN NOW players. Plus, the Suns have 4 first rounders in the deepest draft in years and at least 3 of those will be good picks. The WIN NOW Raptors on the other hand have next to nothing to show for years of awfulness, very few future assets, and sit at 6-11. That's the competitive team Dougie yearns for.... good grief.
Point is: it doesn't take 7 years to rebuild a roster, including tearing it down. That is ridiculous.
"next to nothing to show for years of awfulness"----- except 3 lottery picks, 5th,8th,9th, the oldest being barely 24. You may not be impressed with them, but 2 are barely getting their feet wet as sophomores, and DD is a much more valuable piece than some choose to give him credit for. People pinning their hopes on, and wanting to go hard after this draft, want to give away 2 of them, which seems counter to the tank-to-get-prospects rhetoric, when you're giving away prospects that could be better than what you get back.
"very few future assets",,,,,, all future first rounders plus an additional one in 2016 is "very few"?
It's one thing to be down on the team, but another to paint a picture far worse than reality. Regardless of how deep in boys this draft is supposed to be, it's still a crapshoot of "potential", and this tanking plan that most propose includes giving up 2 promising young lottery picks, in hopes of getting 1 that may not be as good as either one given up. Sounds like a game of Roulette, just as likely to wind up with a bullet in the noggin.
Last edited by p00ka; Fri Dec 6th, 2013 at 03:48 PM.
Lets say the Raptors tank, get rid of Gay, DD, Lowry. Losing record, top 3 pick. What if the pick turns out to be a dud. So another losing season, and again high draft pick. This time, the pick turns out to be a franchise player, potential all-star, etc etc.
How do the Raptors move forward from here?
What would be the general plan that they should follow?
Coz everybody seems to agree that tanking is the solution (me included) but nobody seems to outline a plan that should be followed incase A (pick is a franchise player) or B (bust) happens (me included).
I just saw CalgaryRaps log in so you can answer this too dude, hehehe
Last edited by TheGloveinRapsUniform; Fri Dec 6th, 2013 at 08:15 PM.
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