Firesale, Total Rebuild - trade anyone and everyone and rebuild the entire roster
Whoa big fella - firesale minus JV
Coaching change - get us a new bench leader
Trade Rudy - Moving Rudy alone will make this team better and free cap space
Trade Lowry - we need a new PG to lead this team
Trade Demar - our best scorer just isn't good enough to take this team over the hump
Put Rudy on the bench - minimize his role and let him fire away from the bench
Start Amir again - bring him back to the starting lineup and all will be well
Cash in on other assets - trade guys like Amir, Tyler, Novak, Ross for assets that help the core
Stand pat - do nothing, internal organic growth will make this team better
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Interesting that Sacramento just assigned Senegalese center Hamady NDiaye to their d-league affiliate. He's been getting 3-5 minutes a night most nights. So... here's a couple conspiracy theories:
1) Gray's arrival in Sac-town is imminent and this move frees up his minutes.
2) Ujiri's got an interest in NDiaye, who can't be moved until the 15th. So Sacramento shipped NDiaye to the d-league to allow him to play bigger minutes.
More likely theory: it means nothing.
It's more of a possibility than the Jimmer story. If MU is going for a team breakup and collecting assets that would be a more likely deal. FYI...Pete D the Sac gm was MU's right hand man in Denver so there is some "connection" there.
Jimmer serves neither what tankers or anti-tankers have in mind. Why would anybody think he's worth anything the kings would take from us?
I mean, what is Aaron Gray worth? I would think nothing until this rumour. At best he could be filler in another trade.
Last edited by p00ka; Fri Dec 6th, 2013 at 05:43 PM.
Gray isn't quick, isn't long, isn't a shot blocker, and while his gravitational field alone pulls rebounds toward him, he's not a "get after it" rebounder. What does Jonas gain from practicing against him that he wouldn't get from using a 7 foot pylon?
Does Jimmer really do anything for the team? No, but he's probably a better asset than Gray, even just to be flipped later on. Also as a shooting specialist (regardless of position) he's cheaper than Novak, which could make him easier to use as filler, or also a replacement situational player if Novak is shipped out.
It basically all comes down to what's a better asset: a 29 year old overweight 3rd string C with low mobility, no athleticism and no offensive game to speak of? Or a 24 year old undersized backup shooting guard (or PG with bad passing ability) with at least one tangible skill (shooting)? I'd say just on age alone Fredette wins. Gray isn't going to give a team anything they can't get by signing a random unemployed veteran like Jason Collins.
Umm if you can trade Aaron Gray for Jimmer Fredette, you do it 10 times out of 10.
There's always the possibility that Jimmer could be a bit of a late bloomer in the NBA like Redick was.
IMO, it's a no brainer the opposite direction. In any case, folks, done talking about such silliness (imo). Have fun with this though.
rumour: a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth.
Toronto has nothing that would match Heat's need. Also, the 3 team trades that are suggested here are too complex and too unrealistic to ever happen.
Whether or in favour of tanking or not, it is clear that this team just isn't good enough to compete as is. With a new GM and a record that gets poorer by the game, something has got to give. What do you feel are the priorities going forward in order to build a competitive team, either for this season or future seasons?
Multiple choices can be made in the poll.
Last edited by JawsGT; Sat Dec 7th, 2013 at 06:35 AM.
Although I don't count myself among them, I still believe their are posters who think that the raps can compete for the playoffs, division title, and a win in the first round, and are happy to finally see some raps playoffs again.
But I don't think they can compete for a conference finals, which is what my arbitrary criteria is.
So what moves need to be made
1) Move out bad fit players/players on bad contracts for players of equal talent on shorter bad contracts or on players with better contracts but less talent. The idea is to have contracts that have good production (or good estimated future production) relative to their dollar amount.
2) Understanding the want of good talent/cash ratio, focus on trades that ship out older players for younger players or future younger players (aka draft picks)
3) This one is a bit nutty, so feel free to dismiss, but try trading with a competitive team for a draft pick far in the future when you think that there's a good chance they'll be crappy again. For instance in a deal with OKC try to get a first rounder a season or two after Durant hits free agency, in the hopes that he signs elsewhere and they miss the playoffs.
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