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magoon wrote: View PostLook, the reason everybody wants Milwaukee's 2014 pick is because it is going to be a lottery pick, and probably a very good one, because Milwaukee is not making playoffs this year. Sanders is out. Delfino is out. Pachulia is out. They're trying to win games by giving the ball to Brandon Knight, John Henson and Gary Neal because there is basically nobody else left.
I am so tired of trade scenarios where people think they can pry away the most precious assets Milwaukee has with our players. Trading Jonas probably wouldn't get us that pick or Giannis at this point, because Milwaukee may want to always compete but they're also not stupid. This season is already over for them.
2014 pick is not coming Milwaukee without protections in any trade.
However if you give them a chance at the playoffs by sending them 3 starters (or at very least 2 starters and solid big off bench in Amir), do they give up 'Po?
Breaking it down even further: do you give up 'Po for DeRozan?
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Matt52 wrote: View PostAnd despite all that they are just 5 games out of the playoffs with 62 games left to play with Sanders due back soon.
2014 pick is not coming Milwaukee without protections in any trade.
However if you give them a chance at the playoffs by sending them 3 starters (or at very least 2 starters and solid big off bench in Amir), do they give up 'Po?
Breaking it down even further: do you give up 'Po for DeRozan?
But, I think Toronto is a bad trading partner. Mil just added new players at the 1 and 2; our most attractive trade chips are at the 1 and 2. They already have a long list of slightly-above-average bigs; Amir would be a redundant add to that.
Hammond's play is to parlay 'Po into a significant upgrade at the 3 or 4.Last edited by JimiCliff; Tue Dec 10, 2013, 11:41 AM."Stop eating your sushi."
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Matt52 wrote: View PostHoliday was an All-Star. I think there is way too much value placed on DD here - and that is not my well not criticisms speaking.
If Lowry is gone at the end of this season and Butler and Udoh are just filler, ask yourself:
Would you give up the Raptors 2014 (top 5 protected) pick and JV for DeRozan?
I'd do Butler, Udoh, 'Po for DD and Lowry in a heart beat.
From all the discussions we have on this forum I'm sure similar discussions could be had between GM's. DD is a nice guy, he likes playing in the North, he's on a long term contract at a decent value, he is getting better, blah, blah.
2014 (top 5 protected) + Noel (6th pick) is better than 2014 (top 5 protected) + Po (15th pick). Holiday is better than DD.. but by how far? And can MU convince a GM that its not that far?Last edited by planetmars; Tue Dec 10, 2013, 06:41 PM.
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planetmars wrote: View PostHoliday is better than DD.. but by how far?
2014 (top 5) + Po (15th pick) is better than 2014 (top 5) + Noel (6th pick).
Right now Giannis looks like an awesome prospect, and on top of it we have to consider the recent medical data (i.e. his medical age is closer to 16 and he'll probably reach 7 ft). Giannis would go top 5 if they allowed to re-do the draft.
Being picked 15th only adds value now, since his salary is so low for his talent.Last edited by BobLoblaw; Tue Dec 10, 2013, 07:17 PM.
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