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    Quote peanutwoozle wrote: View Post
    well good luck trying to keep this "talent" together, because when it comes time to re-sign all of them to big contracts, say hello to being capped out again. Going the "well balanced" team route will be better for our cap situation.
    Good lord, man. Bird rights. Bird rights!

    We can exceed the cap without penalty to sign our own players. (I thought we discussed this already)
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    We don't really have to worry about re-signing them today though, that is years down the road and, if done correctly, we will be winning and considered an up and coming team by then, making all of your arguments moot.
    I'm just thinking long term, like everyone else is, and if we get 2 superstars, that will add up to $40MIL for 2 players.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Good lord, man. Bird rights. Bird rights!

    We can exceed the cap without penalty to sign our own players. (I thought we discussed this already)
    Luxury Tax man, MLSE something MLSE is not willing to pay.

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    Quote peanutwoozle wrote: View Post
    Luxury Tax man, MLSE something MLSE is not willing to pay.
    Says who? For the right team, I have no doubt MLSE wouldn't mind being a luxury tax team. They have deep pockets and when this team is actually winning, they are quite profitable.

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    Quote peanutwoozle wrote: View Post
    Luxury Tax man, MLSE something MLSE is not willing to pay.
    MLSE is unwilling to pay the luxury tax? That's news to me.
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    Quote peanutwoozle wrote: View Post
    I'm just thinking long term, like everyone else is, and if we get 2 superstars, that will add up to $40MIL for 2 players.
    So we best not attempt to land superstars, then.

    Listen to yourself.
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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    Says who? For the right team, I have no doubt MLSE wouldn't mind being a luxury tax team. They have deep pockets and when this team is actually winning, they are quite profitable.
    having deep pockets is one thing, being cheap is another.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    MLSE is unwilling to pay the luxury tax? That's news to me.
    MLSE is not cheap? that's news to me

    I seem to remember when they raised ticket prices, they still refused to pay luxury taxes.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    So we best not attempt to land superstars, then.

    Listen to yourself.
    Yup, let's target a team full of scrubs to keep the risk of them bolting low. Surely we can make the playoffs every year and maybe win a title using only minimum contract guys and undrafted rookies?

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    Quote peanutwoozle wrote: View Post
    having deep pockets is one thing, being cheap is another.
    Do Bargnani's, DeRozan's, Amir's, Turkoglu's, Kapono's contracts, and trading for Gay's contract sound cheap?
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    Yup, let's target a team full of scrubs to keep the risk of them bolting low. Surely we can make the playoffs every year and maybe win a title using only minimum contract guys and undrafted rookies?
    What about going the balanced team route? Denver style.

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    Quote peanutwoozle wrote: View Post
    MLSE is not cheap? that's news to me

    I seem to remember when they raised ticket prices, they still refused to pay luxury taxes.
    Who wants to pay luxury taxes for a lottery bound team?

    That's not cheap. That's good business.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Do Bargnani's, DeRozan's, Amir's, Turkoglu's, Kapono's contracts, and trading for Gay's contract sound cheap?
    weren't we still forced to be under the tax line?

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    Quote peanutwoozle wrote: View Post
    weren't we still forced to be under the tax line?
    I seem to recall BC mentioning that MLSE gave him the green-light to become a luxury-tax team, should the right opportunity to present itself. With TL running the show and MLSE running among the most profitable NBA/NHL franchises, I see no reason to think this team will be run as "cheap".

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    Quote peanutwoozle wrote: View Post
    What about going the balanced team route? Denver style.
    Denver style doesn't get you to the conference finals.

    They're a good team that is coached well, and takes great advantage of the lower oxygen levels playing at home. But come playoff time, the gap in elite talent plays out.
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    Quote peanutwoozle wrote: View Post
    weren't we still forced to be under the tax line?
    I applaud you for sticking to your guns about not tanking, but you're arguments are starting to sound a little:

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I applaud you for sticking to your guns about not tanking, but you're arguments are starting to sound a little:
    I'm surprised you didn't go with this:




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    Denver style doesn't get you to the conference finals.

    They're a good team that is coached well, and takes great advantage of the lower oxygen levels playing at home. But come playoff time, the gap in elite talent plays out.
    They're in the West as well, where it has been harder to win since I don't know when, if they were in the East, they would be able to go a lot further.

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    Quote peanutwoozle wrote: View Post
    They're in the West as well, where it has been harder to win since I don't know when, if they were in the East, they would be able to go a lot further.
    Good point. But even in the East, they're not a championship calibre team....which is what Lieweke wants.
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    Quote peanutwoozle wrote: View Post
    What about going the balanced team route? Denver style.
    haha, well since we have their GM that's certainly a possibility. How did they do it though?

    Denver's entire run of success started in 2003 when they won 17 games and got to pick 3rd in the draft, selecting Carmelo Anthony, who was later traded for many of the players they have now. Since we don't have a Melo to trade, we better draft one at the top of this draft

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