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    One of the reason why I love this forum when I joined was the Ball IQ. Most poster here know their basketball. People here understood X's and O's. Cause of that a lot of interesting conversation took place about basketball not financials, picks and etc. Going down this thread all I see is Tank this, Tank that. For this thread I would like to just get back to basketball.

    @Raptors put this pic of practise today

    Casey working with a lineup of GV, Ross, Salmons, Patterson and Hansbrough

    I think this could be a very interesting lineup especially going up against other benches. You got good floor spacing with Ross, Patterson and Salmons. Good hustle and toughness with Hansbrough and Patterson. Than you GV running the show.

    I really feel that Novak will fall out of the rotation. Hasn't been shooting well this year and doesn't give you anything else. Maybe Field too. If Fields doesn't start to be the stopper I don't see him getting any out minutes.

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    Fields would be in our starting lineup if Ross comes off the bench right?

    Also, I know this is sacrilege, but I kind of like Dwane Casey. I want him to succeed. I'm not optimistic, but I want him to.

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    Vasquez looks out of position
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    Fields would be in our starting lineup if Ross comes off the bench right?

    Also, I know this is sacrilege, but I kind of like Dwane Casey. I want him to succeed. I'm not optimistic, but I want him to.
    Yes, I think Ross is still going to start unless if we play Knicks, Miami


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    I'd be hesitant to put out any lineup that doesn't have either Lowry or DD, and to a lesser extent Amir, out on the floor.
    To be honest I haven't really seen Vasquez play much (aside from that near triple double he had against us last year), so if he's as good at making plays as advertised then I might be okay with the lineup above. I'm not sure how well that lineup would fare defensively either.

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    I'd be hesitant to put out any lineup that doesn't have either Lowry or DD, and to a lesser extent Amir, out on the floor.
    To be honest I haven't really seen Vasquez play much (aside from that near triple double he had against us last year), so if he's as good at making plays as advertised then I might be okay with the lineup above. I'm not sure how well that lineup would fare defensively either.
    Lead the league in total assist last year I think. Should know a thing or two about offence.


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    Is Dwane Casey ever going to stop experimenting with all-bench second lines like this is hockey or something? He's been using them for two and a half years now and they just don't work when you don't have GS/Miami/San Antonio-level bench depth - and none of those teams use all-bench lineups that often anyway.

    Anyway: I'm not optimistic about a GV/Ross/Salmons/Patterson/Hansbrough line, because who in that lineup defends, exactly? Ross still makes lots of mistakes, Patterson and Hansbrough are hustle guys who don't have good defensive minds, and Vasquez makes Jose Calderon look like Tony Allen. The only player there who has a history of playing smart D is Salmons and he's fallen off in the last few years because now bigger players can muscle past him. If that's our designated second line we will give up basically all of the points.

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    Hansbrough is good defender. Ross is a good defender. Salmons is a good defender. They would probably play some zone. Ross is now a starter. So technically only 4 reserves.


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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Hansbrough is good defender. Ross is a good defender. Salmons is a good defender. They would probably play some zone. Ross is now a starter. So technically only 4 reserves.


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    I dunno, there's a difference between being an actual starter, and starting because no one else can. T-Ross isn't there yet in my opinion.

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    T-Ross is a long way off...but at this point we should play the hell out of him so we can see what we have as an asset. It will turn out one of 2 ways:

    1) he continues with how he is playing, in which we really don't want him as a piece moving foreward and we know for sure
    2) he improves and finds himself a role in which we can decide if he is a future piece or a trade-able asset with more trade value

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    Vasquez looks out of position
    No.

    They are just running 'the Bargnani'

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    Hope Hayes and Vazquez are part of this Raps team going forward. 2 veteran high IQ players.
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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    Hope Hayes and Vazquez are part of this Raps team going forward. 2 veteran high IQ players.
    Hayes is a 6'6 center. If he has a role, I hope it's from the bench

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    Quote stooley wrote: View Post
    Hayes is a 6'6 center. If he has a role, I hope it's from the bench
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    start um all and bench our good players.... TANK THIS and TANK THAT!!!!!!

    TANKS, TANKS a lot.

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    Quote isaacthompson wrote: View Post
    What, the...what the fuck. Was that real?

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    What, the...what the fuck. Was that real?
    Makes Landry Fields look like he has the stroke of Ray Allen eh.

    I feel like that video deserves it's own thread.
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    Quote isaacthompson wrote: View Post
    Makes Landry Fields look like he has the stroke of Ray Allen eh.

    I feel like that video deserves it's own thread.
    Luckily, He doesn't shoot like that anymore
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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    One of the reason why I love this forum when I joined was the Ball IQ. Most poster here know their basketball. People here understood X's and O's. Cause of that a lot of interesting conversation took place about basketball not financials, picks and etc. Going down this thread all I see is Tank this, Tank that. For this thread I would like to just get back to basketball.

    @Raptors put this pic of practise today

    Casey working with a lineup of GV, Ross, Salmons, Patterson and Hansbrough

    I think this could be a very interesting lineup especially going up against other benches. You got good floor spacing with Ross, Patterson and Salmons. Good hustle and toughness with Hansbrough and Patterson. Than you GV running the show.

    I really feel that Novak will fall out of the rotation. Hasn't been shooting well this year and doesn't give you anything else. Maybe Field too. If Fields doesn't start to be the stopper I don't see him getting any out minutes.

    Like to hear you guys opinion...


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    Not a bad line up though it looks a little small. I guess you would use Ross and Patterson the spread the floor and run the ball through Vasquez. Salmons can try to get some penetration and Hansbrough is in to clean up the mess. You'd probably work a pick and pop with Vasquez and Patterson with Ross in the corner for the kick out 3. Salmons could hang out at the elbow and wait for the reset pass while Hansbrough works off ball waiting for the shot. I wouldn't want to field this group against any team with any sort of post presence but between Ross and Salmons our wing D might be ok.

    I'd like to see more basketball talk too but the team has been so bad from a basketball perspective it's been hard to comment on the games.
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