"Championships are what we live for, now lets go win them."Tim Leiweke
Basketball has clear winners every night --except at the draft, which is all homework, politics and chance.
I think MU can definitely pitch the all star thing to someone coming here.
Someone who might be hungry and passed up, it is a little bit of a selling point, as long as were not in complete rebuild mode.
What I mean by that is were still in the midst of trying to move guys in and out, for pics and assets. Actually looking to make a move in the standings.
Pro-tankers (of whom I am one) - You're saying, vs. Nosike, that no "pro-tanker" is advocating a fire sale or transactions with poor returns. You're saying that Ujiri's "we will not be a treadmill team" statements mean this team is going to tank/rebuild.
What if there are no solid offers, or offers that are a marked win for the Raps, for DD or Amir? What if the return for Lowry includes a solid established young player? What if, sans a fire sale, this team ends up finishing this season seeded somewhere between 7-10 anyway? Isn't this a highly probable outcome, considering how much stock everyone is putting in 2014 draft picks?
What then? Will your opinion change, at some point closer to the trade deadline, on the returns you'd expect for DD or Amir? If a high lottery pick is still within reach in January/February, would you fire sale then?
Right now I think a lot of us are asking to have our cake and eat it too. Not only does life not work that way, we all know being a fan of the Toronto Raptors does not work that way...
I may be wrong, but I'm more and more convinced that Ujiri's rebuild will be severe, but it will be multi-year. I don't think he's feeling the pressure of the 2014 draft. He is going to demand good return on every transaction, and that may mean moving forward with some of the current core. It may mean not having any more first round picks in 2014.
I wouldn't drop my expectations on a return for DD/Amir very far as the trade deadline gets closer, but then again I'm already expecting a lot less than most of the board is. That Amir value thread sounds like people are expecting a top ten draft pick, or a lottery pick + more to come back for him, which I think is kind of ridiculous.
Did we really just trade Gay before an injury?
GO JEDI MASSAI Ujiri! lol
oh man, Ujiri is a wizard. It wouldve been Bargnani all over again if Rudy got hurt and we couldnt trade him by the deadline.
The Baltic Beast is unstoppable!
raps still with 0 wins against >.500 teams.
wins so far:
LAL* Kobes first game back, he was terrible
Chicago* 2 best PGs injured
Last edited by stooley; Thu Dec 19th, 2013 at 09:07 AM.
I guess we can cancel the parade.
The starting line will be and should be soon Vasquez/DeMar/Ross/Amir/JV
I hope you guys aren't suggesting that Vasquez should be starting over Lowry right....
A good case of:
1) not having a retarded coaching scheme
2) him not being the number 1 option
3) small sample size (same as what happened to the Raps)
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