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    Quote Jamshid wrote: View Post
    Draft picks ... There are many teams now that are just so damaged via the injuries that want to start fresh. Add draft picks to these small contracts and you can get some stars back.
    Raps are looking like a 20 pick

    That is not returning a star with semi useless players owed $8, $6, and $3.5m next year and Novak year after
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Raps are looking like a 20 pick

    That is not returning a star with semi useless players owed $8, $6, and $3.5m next year and Novak year after
    Add the 2015 from NY as well then or include patterson and Salmon

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    We are either IN it to WIN it or we are rebuilding. No team has EVER won a NBA title while at the same time trying to hold on its late first round picks and rebuilding via draft

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    Add the 2015 from NY as well then or include patterson and Salmon
    2016 New York pick which is actually worse of Denver/NY

    Still not seeing enough value for a team to give up a star

    Ujiri also values the draft. Trading all your pick hand going all in is dangerous: see Knicks, Nets, or Lakers
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    why? that is what got us in this mess in the first place. let this team play. we have to wait for the summer to see how much money lowry wants for next year and whether we are paying it. (my guess is sign and trade).

    masai is building this team.
    needed a back up pg..tried to sign a couple in the summer, they sucked, traded for one.

    needed a stretch 4..tried to sign one in the summer, he sucked, traded for one who is better but not going to be the answer-will get a better one

    we need to keep on keeping on. right now it's blow up what we have to tank and that plan is gone so lets change it to blow up the future and go all in?

    we can't really win a championship until lebron either breaks down or retires so why trade the future, that we will need in the future, to not win?
    For The Win

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    Lakers has lots of RINGS to show for trading those late 1st round picks , don't they

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    do we have magic johnson? kareem abdul jabbar? new york is a better example. aren't they?
    For The Win

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    Quote Jamshid wrote: View Post
    Lakers has lots of RINGS to show for trading those late 1st round picks , don't they
    What is with the smiley faces? Are you looking to discuss/share ideas or be a dick?

    The Lakers traded 3 firsts for Nash/Howard... How has that worked out?
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Jamshid you're all over the place... Tough to know your opinions lol

    But those guys aren't expirings and have no value.

    If Masai can unload them for anything that helps now, I'd be shocked

    Then again I'm currently shocked so who knows
    Matt you may need to change your avatar soon if the shocking wins keep coming...lol.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    What is with the smiley faces? Are you looking to discuss/share ideas or be a dick?

    The Lakers traded 3 firsts for Nash/Howard... How has that worked out?
    Why are u so sensitive man. Why can't we have a smily face and be happy now
    As far as Lakers, They have been trading picks for years and have rings and banners to show that it works. Yes, Howard and Nash did not work but that does not mean Lakers way is wrong.

    Be happy man we are wining

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    Quote psrs1 wrote: View Post
    Matt you may need to change your avatar soon if the shocking wins keep coming...lol.
    You're right

    Just waiting to see what happens with Lowry
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    Quote Jamshid wrote: View Post
    Why are u so sensitive man. Why can't we have a smily face and be happy now
    As far as Lakers, They have been trading picks for years and have rings and banners to show that it works. Yes, Howard and Nash did not work but that does not mean Lakers way is wrong.

    Be happy man we are wining
    The Lakers also made all those moves in the old CBA when luxury tax teams could sign and trade regardless of apron

    Changed days

    By the way, welcome to my ignore list
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    The Lakers also made all those moves in the old CBA when luxury tax teams could sign and trade regardless of apron

    Changed days

    By the way, welcome to my ignore list
    With the biggest advantage in acting on the free agent market.

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    there is literally no point in replying to jamshids posts and thats why i have him on ignore. he basically posts a bunch of random garbage that either doesn't make sense, or makes ludicrous claims and then disappears from threads when hes corrected. basically just trolling all day.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    The Lakers also made all those moves in the old CBA when luxury tax teams could sign and trade regardless of apron

    Changed days

    By the way, welcome to my ignore list
    Why ?? because of the smily faces

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    Quote iblastoff wrote: View Post
    there is literally no point in replying to jamshids posts and thats why i have him on ignore. he basically posts a bunch of random garbage that either doesn't make sense, or makes ludicrous claims and then disappears from threads when hes corrected. basically just trolling all day.

    Check out my prediction I said this team is the best 3rd team and we can even beat Indiana and guess what, we just did

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    Quote Jamshid wrote: View Post
    Check out my prediction I said this team is the best 3rd team and we can even beat Indiana and guess what, we just did
    Just to clarify, we still have 50 games left to determine whether your prediction comes true.
    "I don't lie. I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation." - Fox Mulder

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