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Nosike wrote: View PostSome of you are just clowns.
No mans land doesn't mean 2nd round, it doesn't mean 7-11 seed, it doesn't mean no top draft pick.
It means your team is in neither a contender nor a bottom feeder AND (this is the important part, pay attention) you have peaked/have no way of improving your team.
Ujiri has already ENSURED that we will not be in no mans land because the second sentence is false. We have tons of cap flexibility moving forwards, all our draft picks and then some, and young players.
The best thing for the raps would be to start with a top 5-7 pick in the 2014 draft and build around that player, JV & Ross for years to come.
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Nosike wrote: View PostUmm derozan isn't a superstar.Twitter - @thekid_it
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Jangles wrote: View PostIf that's so, then just about no team in the league is in no mans land. Every team in the league could pull off a move or moves that would ensure that their team gets out of no man's land and improves the team in the near future. I don't want the Raptors to be what the Bucks and Pistons have been as of late, which is stuck between the 8-11 seeds and dishing out huge money to the first FA that is willing to come to town.
The best thing for the raps would be to start with a top 5-7 pick in the 2014 draft and build around that player, JV & Ross for years to come.
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Nosike wrote: View PostSome of you are just clowns.
No mans land doesn't mean 2nd round, it doesn't mean 7-11 seed, it doesn't mean no top draft pick.
It means your team is in neither a contender nor a bottom feeder AND (this is the important part, pay attention) you have peaked/have no way of improving your team.
Ujiri has already ENSURED that we will not be in no mans land because the second sentence is false. We have tons of cap flexibility moving forwards, all our draft picks and then some, and young players.
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isaacthompson wrote: View PostExactly, that was my justification. People on the first page were trying to justify DeMar as a star talent. Even Casey has said it. But the bottom line is that he's not even close."Both teams played hard my man" - Sheed
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The tough part about "the middle" is that it's hard to identify, except for in hindsight. Every team is convinced they've got some path to becoming better than they currently are, but time proves those 1 or 2 developments to get over the hump are actually really hard to come by.
That said, overpaying non franchise talent is a surefire way to handcuff yourself. Think what the Pistons paid out the last time they had cap space, or Joe Johnson getting $25 million. Gotta at least be like Daryl Morey if you want to move forward with sub-superstar talent - maintain enough flexibility to acquire one through trade, FA, or by acquiring other teams' first rounders. I.e. don't be Colangelo."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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Denver has also had about the most tumultuous last 5 years possible.
The Melo saga.
The rebuild that wasn't a rebuild.
Good drafting, coach of the year, executive of the year.
...And then the bottom falling right out.
That's the key.
Something went sour in that organization - didn't have to.
Denver may be in no man's land now (debatable), but they easily could be a contender if their offseason had gone a different way.
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Shrub wrote: View PostDenver has also had about the most tumultuous last 5 years possible.
The Melo saga.
The rebuild that wasn't a rebuild.
Good drafting, coach of the year, executive of the year.
...And then the bottom falling right out.
That's the key.
Something went sour in that organization - didn't have to.
Denver may be in no man's land now (debatable), but they easily could be a contender if their offseason had gone a different way.
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Nosike wrote: View PostThe nuggets currently have a top 5 pick in this draft courtesy of the Knicks, and already have a playoff team.
That's a pretty damn good situation if you ask me."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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S.R. wrote: View PostI think the wheels are falking off in Denver. Ujiri and Karl had a vision for making some unique pieces fit together by playing a certain way. That vision/leadership is gone, and now they're waiting for JaVale McGee to find his game and for Galinari to come back from injury aka they're screwed in a really tough conference. Losing Iggy didn't help - he was also a great fit.
Had Ujiri still been in Denver, I think you're looking at a potentially lethal Denver team in 2014-15, with one of the top 6 prospects likely headed there to team up with Lawson/Gallo/Iggy (who Masai would've been sure to re-sign)/McGee and company.
Lawson/Iggy/Gallinari/Randle/McGee
with guys like Miller/Nate/Fournier/Faried/etc off the bench is a filthy team.Last edited by Masai Ujiri; Wed Dec 25, 2013, 04:54 PM.
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