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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    I understand that McGee was an RFA and thus a potential expiring contract.. but he got resigned. If McGee was let go then what would be the point of even resigning Nene? McGee was a big risk (and I get the no reward without a risk strategy) but he was bad in Washington, a bit of a bone head, and was worse than Nene. And he was re-upped. And that's the point. If Lowry is given a bad contract (and its possible with his all-star caliber play) then wouldn't he be harder to move if the franchise wanted him to be dealt? If he were to be traded, could he not return equally bad contracts in return? If he was traded for expiring contracts (which by the way is not an easy proposition) then why even resign him in the first place (you still did not get any assets back and you just delayed your cap space by one season)? Keep the cap space and go after better talent in free agency or make lop sided trades in their favour? McGee is not going to be an easy guy to trade.. much harder than Nene was despite their age and salary differences. And that's the fear I have with Lowry. He gets resigned, but then traded for an equally bad contract but one that's even harder to move. Or if he gets traded for expiring contracts why even bother resigning him in the first place?



    Ujiri could have been confident (I love a GM with confidence) but it still might not have worked out.. Iggy may have liked the idea of playing with a super star like Curry as opposed to nobody really in Denver. Or going to California instead of a cold weather town like Denver. So that risk does exist. Even though it was the worst of theirs and NY's pick it was still unprotected (and if Iggy left that pick could have been a lottery pick.. why didn't MU consider that before sending that pick back to Orlando).

    As for the hypothetical example... trading a 23 year old DeMar (and his RFA status) with a first round pick (unprotected) and a 2nd rounder for an expiring contract is an extremely risky trade.. one that I wouldn't do (the expiring contract walks, I lose a young prospect and a first round pick). Now if the pick was protected or if the player wasn't really that good.. I'd think about it harder. Afflalo despite his last season in Denver was still a good player and was still on a reasonable contract. Not putting a protection on that pick though was a dumb idea.
    To the first paragraph - the point of re-signing him is obviously to hope he lives up to the contract. So only in the scenario that fails do you consider the possible returns on a trade. So the point of re-signing him is that you want to keep him, and the risk associated with that is mitigated by the ability (proven, in MU's case) to remove his contract from the cap, and potentially even garner a young asset in the process.

    Afflalo was not RFA status at the time - he was on his overpaid contract. So it is DeMar (as he is paid now, but performing like previous years), the worse of NYK's pick and ours in 2016, and a 2nd rounder. What team is going to accept protection on that pick, take on your bad contract, and all for a 2nd rounder?

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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    To the first paragraph - the point of re-signing him is obviously to hope he lives up to the contract. So only in the scenario that fails do you consider the possible returns on a trade. So the point of re-signing him is that you want to keep him, and the risk associated with that is mitigated by the ability (proven, in MU's case) to remove his contract from the cap, and potentially even garner a young asset in the process.

    Afflalo was not RFA status at the time - he was on his overpaid contract. So it is DeMar (as he is paid now, but performing like previous years), the worse of NYK's pick and ours in 2016, and a 2nd rounder. What team is going to accept protection on that pick, take on your bad contract, and all for a 2nd rounder?
    We really won't agree.. but one final comment. Afflalo actually had (and still does) a good contract. $38M for 5 years is a good contract for his production. Bill Simmons of all people was thinking 4 years and $50M would have been a good deal and he got a much better deal:
    http://grantland.com/features/the-th...nba-christmas/

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    5 year $60 million ... Does this sound like the right price.

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    No

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    Quote Jamshid wrote: View Post
    5 year $60 million ... Does this sound like the right price.
    Good god no.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    We really won't agree.. but one final comment. Afflalo actually had (and still does) a good contract. $38M for 5 years is a good contract for his production. Bill Simmons of all people was thinking 4 years and $50M would have been a good deal and he got a much better deal:
    http://grantland.com/features/the-th...nba-christmas/
    Well, Simmons is crazy then. Afflalo was always a solid if unspectacular defender and his PER was consistently around 13 (sub-Demar levels) until this year. He was paid on potential, just like DD, and just like DD until this year it seemed like a drastic overpay.

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