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    So, yesterday I log onto rapsrepublic, to check the pre game post and I see.

    Gut-check game for the Raptors who are hosting Wolves two nights after shaking people’s confidence
    Now to me that's just ridiculous and frustrating at the same time. These Raptors all season have proven that they have improved and deserve to be considered a playoff team, and a team that is clearly on the rise. Instead of shrugging off a bad loss like all the other decent fans around the NBA do, our confidence gets shaken!?!

    I understand being a Raptors fan over the years has been tough, we're constantly disappointed by big acquisitions ( J.O, HEDO, Jarret Jack). Our draft picks take a little longer to develop than people like ( DeRozan, JV, T-Ross), but at the end of the day we're having a season where it's all coming together, and we let one game mess with us?

    LISTEN UP RAPS FANS! Part of being a good organization and maintaining a level of respectability starts with us. We need to believe in our team like the Celtics, Lakers, Golden State, OKC, Houston etc fans do. I bet they'll be guys coming in here being like oh Celtics and Lakers are storied franchises BLAH BLAH. What about OKC? WHat about Golden State? These teams even when they suck they're fans are backing them full fledged. Us on the other hand are quick to run for the hills and beg our GMs to "BLOW IT ALL UP" for a chance at what?? Hoping we land a good pick? Then hoping said pick works out? Yes analytics nerds I know the stats behind the importance of good draft picks, but at the end of the day I enjoy winning basketball. We right now are playing winning basketball, and it's time for a franchise's fans to get on board and act like we're part of a winning franchise. We could learn a lesson from our counter parts in the Hockey World. Those leafs fans although irrational most the time. NEVER GIVE UP ON THEIR TEAM. Time for us to do the same.

    Ask yourself this: If you were a free agent would you want to come play for a city with such fickle fans? Who can't even start believing in their team when THE REST OF THE LEAGUE does? There's been more coverage, more props given to the Raps this year then any in recent years. Even more so than back when Bosh was here. I absolutely understand that for the atmosphere at the ACC to be as good as it is in other arenas the team will have to earn it in the playoffs. In the mean time let's back them up? Rather than getting down every time we lose a game. Even if it's to a team we should of beat.

    Yes the Celtics are a joke this year and by no means should anyone of apologized for saying so before hand. It's blatant they're trying to lose, and it's blatant that we are the better team. Miami lost to the Knicks and Nets this year and a few more, think their fans the next day were like "man we're no longer contenders?"

    Get with it guys, we're not gonna win every game, but we will compete enjoy it!

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    I don't really blame the fans for being sceptical. Toronto sports fans have been pretty much blue-ballsed the last few years with the Jays huge expectations and the Leafs huge playoff meltdown last year. I think we would just like to see this recent success maintained for more than 15 games before we can fully "buy-in".

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    Quote 92TillInfinity wrote: View Post
    I don't really blame the fans for being sceptical. Toronto sports fans have been pretty much blue-ballsed the last few years with the Jays huge expectations and the Leafs huge playoff meltdown last year. I think we would just like to see this recent success maintained for more than 15 games before we can fully "buy-in".
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    Quote 92TillInfinity wrote: View Post
    I don't really blame the fans for being sceptical. Toronto sports fans have been pretty much blue-ballsed the last few years with the Jays huge expectations and the Leafs huge playoff meltdown last year. I think we would just like to see this recent success maintained for more than 15 games before we can fully "buy-in".
    This is the best point yet.

    However, my first reaction was that the Boston game was a blip. Boston came out aggressive, and caught the Raptors off guard.

    Also, the Raps have lost so many times at the Gardens, it's hard to shake the bad karma. If the Raps keep playing with the constitution their showing, they'll shake off all the years of negative vibe.

    I'd say, a second round playoff exit to Indiana after putting up a hell of fight would go a long way toward putting us on the plus side of the karma bank.

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    Quote Pele wrote: View Post
    I'd say, a second round playoff exit to Indiana after putting up a hell of fight would go a long way toward putting us on the plus side of the karma bank.
    Indiana took it step by step. They first lost in the east semis then east finals. Now they are eyeing the finals. Raptors need to take similar baby steps, so if they can have a second round matchup against Indiana or Miami I would be satisfied.

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    Quote rapfan10 wrote: View Post
    Indiana took it step by step. They first lost in the east semis then east finals. Now they are eyeing the finals. Raptors need to take similar baby steps, so if they can have a second round matchup against Indiana or Miami I would be satisfied.

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    The 76ers also made it to the east semi's the same year Indiana did, then missed the playoffs the following year.

    Why do baby steps work for some and not others?

    Both those teams were helped by playing against teams who lost there superstars (Dwight and Rose) in 2011/12. But the reason their paths divereged after is very obvious. Philly lost AI, Indy still had George, and George was improving.

    Teams gain experience, and experience helps players become more productive, and productivity adds to wins/success. But talent still trumps all, because that talent adds the most efficient level of productivity.

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    Quote Pele wrote: View Post
    This is the best point yet.

    However, my first reaction was that the Boston game was a blip. Boston came out aggressive, and caught the Raptors off guard.

    Also, the Raps have lost so many times at the Gardens, it's hard to shake the bad karma. If the Raps keep playing with the constitution their showing, they'll shake off all the years of negative vibe.

    I'd say, a second round playoff exit to Indiana after putting up a hell of fight would go a long way toward putting us on the plus side of the karma bank.
    boston were shooting something like 34% the whole game. thats hardly aggressive. blaming extremely poor play on mystical karma = homerism.how many extra chances to win did boston give the raptors near the end? and every single time, raptors fucked it up.

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    For me the Raptors need at least 1.5 seasons of success before I stop cringing when I look at who they will be playing next. Many years of futility has given me that right. The Raptors have to prove to me that they are the real deal.. and one season is just not enough (and at this point we haven't even seen half a season).

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    Last time I was shaken was so long ago, we need a wakeup call here and there so it's not that big of a deal.
    I'm just so glad that the players aren't as shaky as half the raptor fans
    Came out against a great team and had a bounce back game
    It's all coming together, last time this year we would have lost a game like last nights by nine even if we lead it by 5 with 4 mins left in the fourth.
    It's new for all of us
    I guess, It's gonna take sometime before we only realize that were gonna need quick reminders not to get over our selves

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    I am someone who's a day one Raptors fan and I've been limiting myself in how much I've been watching the team this year after what's amounted to close on 15 years in total of frustrating mediocre basketball. If you look at this season as a whole you have to say they're heading in the right direction overall. My confidence in the team is actually growing. I can see where they're going with this. Still, to make it to the top they're gonna need to get lucky in the draft...

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    a lot of superfluous cheerleading with nothing substantial being said.

    we aren't the heat, pacers or spurs. we don't have an insane .800 record.

    our record is barely over .500 right now. and while it would have been great if theoretically rudy was traded before the season started and we take away the awful 6-12 beginning, thats just not possible. theres no cushion here for mistakes, especially with the NY teams turning around as well.

    it goes both ways. some fans confidence can get shaken after a horrible game like the boston matchup. other fans all of a sudden think we're champions cause we're finally playing .500 (ie. MEDIOCRE) ball. some raptors fans are still mocking how bad washington are, yet they're 19-19.
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    Quote iblastoff wrote: View Post
    a lot of superfluous cheerleading with nothing substantial being said.

    we aren't the heat, pacers or spurs. we don't have an insane .800 record.

    our record is barely over .500 right now. and while it would have been great if theoretically rudy was traded before the season started and we take away the awful 6-12 beginning, thats just not possible. theres no cushion here for mistakes, especially with the NY teams turning around as well.

    it goes both ways. some fans confidence can get shaken after a horrible game like the boston matchup. other fans all of a sudden think we're champions cause we're finally playing .500 (ie. MEDIOCRE) ball. some raptors fans are still mocking how bad washington are, yet they're 19-19.
    We are 15-6 since the Gay trade. Thats 71.4% in 21 games (1/4 of the season), thats the team that has a great record while having one of the hardest schedules. This is the level some of us believe we can sustain (give or take)
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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    We are 15-6 since the Gay trade. Thats 71.4% in 21 games (1/4 of the season), thats the team that has a great record while having one of the hardest schedules. This is the level some of us believe we can sustain (give or take)
    so basically, you think we're as good as the miami heat right now is what you're saying (their current record being about 71%)

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    Quote iblastoff wrote: View Post
    so basically, you think we're as good as the miami heat right now is what you're saying (their current record being about 71%)
    Well, if you look it as that, at least things could be worse. We could be the Milwaukee Bucks. (No offense to Milwaukee but it's not a place I'd want to be in, though it has a nice amusement/water parks)
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    Quote RPT23 wrote: View Post
    Well, if you look it as that, at least things could be worse. We could be the Milwaukee Bucks. (No offense to Milwaukee but it's not a place I'd want to be in, though it has a nice amusement/water parks)
    milwaukee is another story. but to say this current raptors lineup is as good as the miami heat = ludicrous and blatant homerism

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    The eyeballs say that there is much to cheer about the way the team is playing especially with 2 second yr players as starters. But do get serious about waving the flags too much ...its not even been a half season and the ATl. div, is probably the crappiest its ever been. To be knocking the Celtics as much as was occurring here before that game was terrible. Many of us know about the true adage of pro leagues that "on any given day...." and dont go strutting before achieving.

    This team is not deep and even nagging injuries like those to TH and now Salmons if it happens to KL or another starter can be curtains to a 50 win season as another thread is implying. Now this maybe a glass half full view/possibility but this happens regularly in the NBA...check around the league...we've been pretty lucky so far.

    Its a game to game thing for me. Those who have experienced seasons of bad losing and management tend to be just a wee bit more wary.
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    Yeah. I take it one game at a time. The Minnesota win was nice since the boston game was so bad. Be interesting to see in the coming weeks.

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    Quote c_bcm wrote: View Post
    Yeah. I take it one game at a time. The Minnesota win was nice since the boston game was so bad. Be interesting to see in the coming weeks.
    Even more important was the fact that the Raps held the second highest scoring team in the league to under 90 points. I see their growth being sustainable if they keep this level of defense up. Much more so than relying heavily on the three ball, which on some night just wont fall. Not saying they can keep winning at a 70% clip but I do believe they have some pieces that will allow them to be in the top tier of the Eastern conference team. Some good drafting and slick moves by MU who knows how how they can go.

    What should be obvious is that this just isnt a little 10 game run of good play. They arent gonna turn into a pumpkin at midnight. They arent the same team that overlooked bad teams or couldnt get over the hump and close out good teams like Indiana or OKC.

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    Look...until I see second round of playoffs i'm never really going to believe.

    Between the Leafs and the Raptors...I want to believe but damn...

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