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    Default Greivis Vasquez, or Jose Calderon?

    http://www.nba.com/raptors/video/201...140129-3128478

    Man, I don't know about you, but it's hard for me not to like Greivis Vasquez.

    Well spoken, obviously team first, and wants to learn and stay a Raptor.

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    calderon. i'd take a dependable 3 point shot than an ugly ass floater any day.

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    Quote iblastoff wrote: View Post
    calderon. i'd take a dependable 3 point shot than an ugly ass floater any day.
    Honestly the ugliest thing i've ever seen.
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    Vasquez is Calderon without a jump shot !

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    Quote 4hunnit_degreez wrote: View Post
    Vasquez is Calderon without a jump shot !
    Because they both speak Spanish? Because they're both white?

    Jose's game and Vasquez's game are nothing alike. Nothing.

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    Quote S.R. wrote: View Post
    Because they both speak Spanish? Because they're both white?

    Jose's game and Vasquez's game are nothing alike. Nothing.
    They were supposed to be though. The white/spanish speaking thing, of course. But also they're supposed to be pass first point guards who can run the floor and excel in the pick and roll but can't guard other players 1 on 1.

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    Is this a serious question? Calderon in a HEARTBEAT.
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    Calderon. He used to be so consistent taking those jumpshots off of screens. Vasquez is a streaky shooter which can be a problem. One thing that vasquez has to work on though are his floaters, man those are ugly. But other than that, they are very similar players.

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    The funny thing is that was the one thing people from Sacramento said he did well. They said he was almost automatic with the floater. It's funny how since he's come here it's become non existent.

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    Calderon...and that's not a slight to GV.

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    Calderon and that 07-08 Assist to Turnover Ratio. Although Greivis' numbers are down across the board and I don't think he has shown us his true game yet.

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    I think we all give GV a little to hard of a time. He makes some bone headed mistakes that Jose never would but Jose was just on another level when it came to running a team. Most point guards aren't that good. For a backup point guard GV is pretty good. He's also been playing better of late. You can see he is finally starting to feel better from that surgery he had in the offseason.

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    JC is the better player, but I'd rather have GV for a couple of reasons. Most importantly GV is cheaper. $4M cheaper. Also GV is a true backup and would not create any kind of PG controversy. When was the last time the Raptors did not have a PG controversy? Seems like its been forever.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    JC is the better player, but I'd rather have GV for a couple of reasons. Most importantly GV is cheaper. $4M cheaper. Also GV is a true backup and would not create any kind of PG controversy. When was the last time the Raptors did not have a PG controversy? Seems like its been forever.
    This is true. Also from the eye test he's a slightly better defender than Jose. I think him being 6'6 helps him a bit. He's able to recover decently well when he gets beat at times because his length disrupts the other teams point guard.

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    I gotta say that Greivis is showing that he really wants to be a part of the team. You can tell he's putting in a full effort game in and game out, and everytime you watch his post game interviews, he is so excited to talk about his team. Man is so humble. I love it!

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    GV has much larger balls than Calderon. Isnt afraid to make things happen on his own Calderon passes too much and is reluctant to shoot on his own despite have a beautiful shot.

    I like gutsy players and GV is one of em.

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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    GV has much larger balls than Calderon. Isnt afraid to make things happen on his own Calderon passes too much and is reluctant to shoot on his own despite have a beautiful shot.

    I like gutsy players and GV is one of em.
    So do I. That's why I always liked Kyle over Jose when everyone was feeling Jose. We got accustomed to Jose but I always said Jose was WAY too passive on our team. And he couldn't get to the basket like Kyle and just change the game the way Kyle can. And let's not talk about defense lol. Kyle was more like the new age point guards and I just knew in time he would be successful. Jose is still good and I love him as a person and appreciate what he did for us but I'm so glad we picked Kyle over Jose.

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    Default Greivis Vasquez, or Jose Calderon?

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    GV has much larger balls than Calderon. Isnt afraid to make things happen on his own Calderon passes too much and is reluctant to shoot on his own despite have a beautiful shot.

    I like gutsy players and GV is one of em.
    Having balls is useless when you constantly hoist them almost entirely over the backboard.

    Lowry is gutsy in a good way. Vasquez is gutsy in a fumbling, desperate, embarrassing way.

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    Quote iblastoff wrote: View Post
    Having balls is useless when you constantly hoist them almost entirely over the backboard.

    Lowry is gutsy in a good way. Vasquez is gutsy in a fumbling, desperate, embarrassing way.
    hmm debatable, Vasquez makes some extremely nice dishes to our bigs who are just too clumsy to catch the pass. Vasquez also doesnt mind being a back up need I remind you how Calderon sank the team when he came off the bench? guy forgot how to play... like he was sabotaging us.

    Calderon was a turnover machine when he came off the bench. Vasquez floater hasnt been dropping lately which is a shame in New Orleans that thing was automatic.

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    I don't think the two can be compared at least at the moment. Jose is a much superior PG.
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