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    WOW! Hahahaha, everyone took the title the wrong way!

    I made a question posing how similar their personalities are, not who would you take!! :/

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    Vasquez still making those nonchalant passes that inexplicably get intercepted? Just checking. Jose all the way.

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    Quote ReubenJRD wrote: View Post
    WOW! Hahahaha, everyone took the title the wrong way!

    I made a question posing how similar their personalities are, not who would you take!! :/
    In that case, yah I'm glad he loves being here and has no issue expressing it! Just wish he gets a little more consistent and stops attempting floaters.

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    Quote ReubenJRD wrote: View Post
    WOW! Hahahaha, everyone took the title the wrong way!

    I made a question posing how similar their personalities are, not who would you take!! :/
    You've started a war!!!

    But I guess they are kinda similar in terms of personality.

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    Vasquez is solid, and I think he is only going to get better with this team. Very much like Jose as well, which is a good thing! I hope we pick up his option.

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    If the comparison is in a vacuum, then it's Calderon without hesitation.

    But in terms of fit with this current roster, I can't see how anyone could choose Calderon. Lowry is our alpha dog. Calderon being too good for permanent backup duties, and not good enough for permanent starter duties, had a tendency to neuter Lowry (unintentionally of course).
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    Quote ReubenJRD wrote: View Post
    WOW! Hahahaha, everyone took the title the wrong way!

    I made a question posing how similar their personalities are, not who would you take!! :/

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    Quote ReubenJRD wrote: View Post
    WOW! Hahahaha, everyone took the title the wrong way!

    I made a question posing how similar their personalities are, not who would you take!! :/
    We're guilty of assuming you were talking basketball....not psychology
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    Quote iblastoff wrote: View Post
    Having balls is useless when you constantly hoist them almost entirely over the backboard.

    Lowry is gutsy in a good way. Vasquez is gutsy in a fumbling, desperate, embarrassing way.
    hmm debatable, Vasquez makes some extremely nice dishes to our bigs who are just too clumsy to catch the pass. Vasquez also doesnt mind being a back up need I remind you how Calderon sank the team when he came off the bench? guy forgot how to play... like he was sabotaging us.

    Calderon was a turnover machine when he came off the bench. Vasquez floater hasnt been dropping lately which is a shame in New Orleans that thing was automatic.

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    Quote 4hunnit_degreez wrote: View Post
    Vasquez is Calderon without a jump shot !
    Because they both speak Spanish? Because they're both white?

    Jose's game and Vasquez's game are nothing alike. Nothing.

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    Quote S.R. wrote: View Post
    Because they both speak Spanish? Because they're both white?

    Jose's game and Vasquez's game are nothing alike. Nothing.
    They were supposed to be though. The white/spanish speaking thing, of course. But also they're supposed to be pass first point guards who can run the floor and excel in the pick and roll but can't guard other players 1 on 1.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    If the comparison is in a vacuum, then it's Calderon without hesitation.

    But in terms of fit with this current roster, I can't see how anyone could choose Calderon. Lowry is our alpha dog. Calderon being too good for permanent backup duties, and not good enough for permanent starter duties, had a tendency to neuter Lowry (unintentionally of course).
    This. The whole "platoon" idea for sharing a position rarely works in sports, imho. NHL teams try it when they have two goalies not quite good enough, and the Raps tried it for years with Jose. It was never a positive thing.

    Players have to be comfortable in their role. They need a routine - they need to know their minutes and when they'll be playing each game. They need to not be taking questions constantly about whether they "deserve" to be starting over a teammate, or vice versa.

    A true back-up/role player is also much cheaper.

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    Quote S.R. wrote: View Post
    This. The whole "platoon" idea for sharing a position rarely works in sports, imho. NHL teams try it when they have two goalies not quite good enough, and the Raps tried it for years with Jose. It was never a positive thing.

    Players have to be comfortable in their role. They need a routine - they need to know their minutes and when they'll be playing each game. They need to not be taking questions constantly about whether they "deserve" to be starting over a teammate, or vice versa.

    A true back-up/role player is also much cheaper.
    I agree, but to add to this idea, Jose's a great player, but isn't a complete player. The hole in his game on the defensive end is so huge. For Jose to excel he needs to be on a team that can cover that up for him, and starting AB meant there was no big man in the paint to check his man once he blew by Jose.

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    Ricky Rubio.
    “The saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.” - Martin Luther King

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    Quote Balls of Steel wrote: View Post
    Ricky Rubio.
    If only he could shoot...

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    Juan Pablo Montoya
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    Quote JawsGT wrote: View Post
    If only he could shoot...
    Or play D
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    How many times did Vasquez say "fun" in that interview? I think he might possibly be having fun out there.

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    Quote Raptorsnz wrote: View Post
    How many times did Vasquez say "fun" in that interview? I think he might possibly be having fun out there.
    You can tell by how animated he is on the court. It's been a while since we had a player who shows that much emotion in game.
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    Quote Raptorsnz wrote: View Post
    How many times did Vasquez say "fun" in that interview? I think he might possibly be having fun out there.
    How a guy could not have fun making millions upon millions annually to play a game you love in front of millions of admirers.

    If they don't think it's "fun", the world needs plenty of plumbers.
    Dwane Casey says: Pound the Gay!!

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