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I tried to watch the Cavs/Knicks game last night and made it to half before turning it off. Absolutely awful basketball to watch.
What I don't understand about Kyrie is, why is he so easy to defend at times? First 5 mins of the game he barely touched the ball. Then when he does get it, he basically gets shut down by the dynamic defence of Raymond "don't call me fat" Felton, and Pablo "pass the walking stick" Prigioni. How does a young athletic guard get stopped by two slow guards? How does he manage to dribble into their double team then throw the ball away when he realizes he is in trouble?
Kyrie is talented and certainly would be better with more talent around him but he seems to have a sort of tunnel vision.
At this point, Lowry is the better player.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.
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People need to start looking at Mike Brown a little harder, dude is the absolute worst. He's abysmal at developing young talent and Bennett is the perfect example front row center. While i don't think he should have been the #1 overall pick, he IS a talented player with a lot of potential and that jackass is straight ruining him.@sweatpantsjer
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ceez wrote: View PostPeople need to start looking at Mike Brown a little harder, dude is the absolute worst. He's abysmal at developing young talent and Bennett is the perfect example front row center. While i don't think he should have been the #1 overall pick, he IS a talented player with a lot of potential and that jackass is straight ruining him.
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ceez wrote: View PostPeople need to start looking at Mike Brown a little harder, dude is the absolute worst. He's abysmal at developing young talent and Bennett is the perfect example front row center. While i don't think he should have been the #1 overall pick, he IS a talented player with a lot of potential and that jackass is straight ruining him."Both teams played hard my man" - Sheed
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ceez wrote: View PostPeople need to start looking at Mike Brown a little harder, dude is the absolute worst. He's abysmal at developing young talent and Bennett is the perfect example front row center. While i don't think he should have been the #1 overall pick, he IS a talented player with a lot of potential and that jackass is straight ruining him.
But Irving also had Byron Scott for 2 years. Scott is not a bad coach (nor do I think he's the greatest or anything). And he's had success with PGs, including a young Chris Paul.
Management has definitely been the biggest problem in Cleveland, as it was totally stupid to bring back Mike Brown and they've made questionable player moves.
But I still don't like what I've seen from Irving. I don't think he's toxic or anything, but I haven't seen traits that I look for in a lead guard, especially with his talent level. I don't see leadership. I don't see a strong competitive edge. His ability to get other involved and run the O seems to have been stalled since he came into the league. I don't see the right effort level or attention to detail. And I don't want Toronto to be the team to try and figure out if he can change those things, especially given his likely future cost and apparent fragility.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostReally? I don't hear much praise for Kemba.
Rubio gets my vote.
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ceez wrote: View PostFor most overrated PG i'm going with Deron Williams
All the talent in the world but dude's a maroon
And holy crap, he managed to get Jerry Sloan out of Utah....
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Wiggins wrote: View Postomfg who is better than kyrie irving that he's overrated?
you kids need to look up the meanings of these big words you're throwing around.
wait don't tell me. kyle lowry is better than kyrie irving right? ROFL i don't even have the words.
Where is Cleveland with Kyrie Irving as the top dog? He's a great player, right? RIGHT? Because crossovers and +20 point games are what define greatness in this league.
By no means is Kyle Lowry better than Kyrie Irving; Irving is miles head more skilled, and a more talented basketball player. But, Lowry is a leader, his production and his abilities are the reason why this Raptor team is anywhere in the top of playoff picture.
Irving is an awful point guard. He does not look for his teammates as much as he should (and he should, because Cleveland has some really good talent), he's obviously a shoot-first point guard (nothing wrong with that, but no balance whatsoever i.e. Jerryd Bayless-like) and isn't anywhere near mature or a leader.
Look, at the end of the day, if Kyrie Irving were to come to Toronto, I'd accept him with open arms, he's a wonderful talent! But, he's not that player that is advertised all across the league. In the NBA, it's more then just an outside court full of scrubs *cough* Uncle Drew *cough*.Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostReally? I don't hear much praise for Kemba.
Rubio gets my vote.Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.
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