Trade Rumours

[Axel]

OKC wants a winger who can shoot and hold his own (somewhat) on D. I actually think Salmons makes the most sense for the Raps to offer.

[BobLoblaw]

With the money they signed Kobe to, the Lakers will be in win now mode starting next year (they were this year until injuries). Swapping out Nash, who is always injured, for Lowry who is yonger, better, and healthier would be fantastic for LAL. They will be shopping Nash hard looking for a deal just like the one proposed.

What I'm not sure of is whether we could sign and trade Lowry before the draft, because I'm pretty sure we can't until July. Since LA has already dealt away their 2015 and 2017 picks, we'd have to get them to include whoever they drafted in 2014 instead of a pick in order for the deal to make sense on our end.

They have cap space to sign Lowry though. So in effect, they need more than just Lowry to be interested. They would need someone like LeBron/Melo/Bosh or some other good free agent to sign there. If it's just Lowry, then no need to trade Nash. If one of those top guys don't sign there... why not just sign Lowry and wait for 2015 free agency while keeping the rookie. Or keep the rookie and look at trades.

Also, there's still a good chance that Nash ends up with medical retirement. Depending on how many more games he manages to play this year, his salary may not count towards cap space at all next year.

In other words, possible... but lots of things have to go right.

[BobLoblaw]

Woj report about OKC:

Armed with trade exceptions, OKC has been active in search for a shooter to fortify them for title run, league sources tell Yahoo.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) February 13, 2014

It just so happens that we have a shooter sitting on our bench and not in the long term plans. Could OKC have an interest in Novak? He easily fits into the Martin trade exception, and gives them a solid shooter that they could leave in the corner. They also have a strong enough defense that they could hide him for stretches.

Toronto Trades: Steve Novak

OKC Trades: Trade Exemption ($3.75mil) and Perry Jones


OKC needs to remove someone from the roster as this trade would otherwise take them over the limit. Perry Jones only plays 12 minutes a game, which is very similar to Novak.

Jones would then give Toronto a young player and can see how he fits

Novak sucks for his salary, though. And OKC is very smart and cautious when it comes to money. I don't see it even without Perry Jones.

[stooley]

Novak sucks for his salary, though. And OKC is very smart and cautious when it comes to money. I don't see it even without Perry Jones.

Novak actually doesn't really suck for his salary. He was a good piece in NY. It's just that he has no role on this team, so he gets bit minutes here and there.

He's a specialist, and is paid pretty fair.

The reason we don't want him is that he just doesn't fit.

[Mediumcore]

How about Perkins and a first rounder (say their own) for Novak and Hansborough? The Raptors gain a bit more salary making it harder to sign other free agents this summer, but they'll get another pick (probably pick #30).

Their starting Centre and a first round pick for Novak and Tyler? Seems very one sided in Toronto's favour, so I like it!

[stooley]

Their starting Centre and a first round pick for Novak and Tyler? Seems very one sided in Toronto's favour, so I like it!

LOL starting center. OKC is significantly worse, like barely a playoff team worse, with Perkins on the floor. He's terrible and is a cap burden.

[Axel]

LOL starting center. OKC is significantly worse, like barely a playoff team worse, with Perkins on the floor. He's terrible and is a cap burden.

He plays 20 minutes a night, so obviously Coach Brooks wants him for a purpose. It's his contract that is the franchise's problem.

[mcHAPPY]

LOL starting center. OKC is significantly worse, like barely a playoff team worse, with Perkins on the floor. He's terrible and is a cap burden.

My hope is he comes to Raps on draft night via Salmons for pick(s).

Perkins might actually be useful for Raptors as a backup limited to 15 minutes a night.

You can bet he would be a handful for JV in practice..... and he needs that.

[stooley]

He plays 20 minutes a night, so obviously Coach Brooks wants him for a purpose. It's his contract that is the franchise's problem.

I don't know how to pull this up, but I've read it all over the place:

OKC's point differential with Perkins on the floor is like 5 or 6 points worse than with him off. AND he's mostly playing with the starters, so that number should be skewed in his favor.

Scott Brooks is widely criticized for playing Perkins as much as he does.

[Mediumcore]

OKC wants a winger who can shoot and hold his own (somewhat) on D. I actually think Salmons makes the most sense for the Raps to offer.

Bet they would love to get their hands on Ross actually. We could probably get a pick and any of their young wings. Maybe it's me over valuing our players but I think I would hold onto Ross unless he could be used to pry away Westbrook somehow.

[Axel]

I don't know how to pull this up, but I've read it all over the place:

OKC's point differential with Perkins on the floor is like 5 or 6 points worse than with him off. AND he's mostly playing with the starters, so that number should be skewed in his favor.

Scott Brooks is widely criticized for playing Perkins as much as he does.

And Scott Brooks has more coaching wins than those who criticize. I'm not saying Perkins is a great player, but if the coach chooses to roll him out for 20 minutes a night on the best team in the NBA, they aren't exactly looking to give him away.

[stooley]

Bet they would love to get their hands on Ross actually. We could probably get a pick and any of their young wings. Maybe it's me over valuing our players but I think I would hold onto Ross unless he could be used to pry away Westbrook somehow.

Yeah, there's nothing that they have that I'd take for Ross. Their first round pick is marginally better than SAC's 2nd rounder.

Lamb's decent I guess, but I like Ross. No point on making a trade just to make a trade.

[Axel]

Bet they would love to get their hands on Ross actually. We could probably get a pick and any of their young wings. Maybe it's me over valuing our players but I think I would hold onto Ross unless he could be used to pry away Westbrook somehow.

I'm sure they would love Ross, but they can't afford him and the Raps shouldn't be shopping him. Salmons makes the most sense but I think it's doubtful that the Raps are at all involved with OKC at the deadline.

[CalgaryRapsFan]

Done!

Lol

I'd do it.. but then OKC goes into luxury tax. OKC is $2.2M under the line, and Novak's salary is $3.75M. OKC won't do that. They'd have to give back another contract and that could squash that deal.

I think that planetmars' scenario involving Hansborough & Perkins is far more likely.

Novak for TPE doesn't seem like enough of a return for Toronto.

Novak & OKC 2nd round for TPE & OKC 1st round doesn't seem like enough of a return for OKC.


I wonder about Novak & SAC 2nd round pick for TPE & OKC 1st round, as an option.

OKC would likely only drop about 5-7 spots, while saving the guaranteed money. They wouldn't be clear of luxury tax, but if they're dangling TPE for a shooter, it doesn't sound like they're overly concerned.

[CalgaryRapsFan]

OKC wants a winger who can shoot and hold his own (somewhat) on D. I actually think Salmons makes the most sense for the Raps to offer.

Salmons & Hansborough & 2nd round pick (OKC's or SAC's) for Perkins & OKC 1st round pick?

OKC would add about $2M salary (pro-rated) this season, but would save over $7M next season if both Salmons & Hansborough are waived ($1M guaranteed each).