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I have a scenario...say at the end of the year, Embiid is number one, and Wiggins is number 2. Say Milwaukee is picking number 2...they should take Wiggins, but the already have Giannis at SF....would you guys be open to trading for him? How much(personally DD for Giannis+Pachulia+2nd rounder)? Do you think the Greek Freak can be an elite player?
I think if we keep Lowry and continue winning, but have guys like a Ross+Giannis+Val learning how to win...we could potentially put ourselves in a sustainable competitive situation.
Bucks would keep Giannis for sure
It would take more than DD to get Giannis imo
Giannis is looking like a complete game changer: a near 7 foot SF that has mid-range, can run the floor and has surprisingly great handles?
If anything, they would put Wiggins at SG.
I can't judge the medical side, so if the Raptors' physicians would say "stay away, he's not likely to stay good for the whole 4 years," fair enough. If they say that there's some risk.. well, there are no risk-free ways to get and keep a player of Bosh's caliber. Re Joe Johnson, a big part of that problem was the 6 year deal. And still, he was traded for expirings + a pick, so not so terrible an outcome in hindsight. Bosh is better, 4 years, so considerably less risky. Not to mention, they'd mostly be replacing bad contracts in year 1, so it's really 3 extra years.
I think that the Raptors should keep multiple options open. But in the end, this particular option probably doesn't matter, I don't expect Bosh to be interested.
I wouldn't want Bosh for 15+ mil per year, and that is likely what he would get at least. Furthermore, if we did bring him back, is he then the #1 guy? I don't like that idea. If he would play into the type of system we have now, where he would be setting a lot of screens and utilizing the PnR and pick and pop scenarios, then I don't mind as much. But Jonas would have to be a priority in the post, and the ball would still have to go through Lowry and DD primarily IMO. In this case, Bosh is really not much more than an expensive 2Pat, and I am not that interested in that. I really think that if we are gonna upgrade the 4, we need a guy that can defend the paint similar to Amir's level, but be a better post presence than Amir. I'm not sure who can provide that, but a max contract Bosh is probably not the answer.
Tim Lieweke wanted posters of all time great Leafs taken down from the ACC. I can't see him thinking Bosh is a good idea. I'm sure he wants to distinguish this team from the past as quickly as possible.
"I won't shoot 5 for 19 again...." - DeFrozen (in theaters now)
If we want Bosh, we wait a year. Assume Bosh doesn't opt out this year, but declines his PO for the year after. Then we just sign him with cap space.
No need to be giving up assets to clear cap space when a year of waiting will give us the same cap room.
Point being that we shouldn't make an attempt to get Bosh this summer. Wait and see if he is available the following summer.
To me the question is 'would it push the Raptors into the 50+ wins territory year after year?' That's in part for physicians to answer. From the talent and fit perspective, I think it would, unless current players cool off considerably.
That said, I think it would pretty much take Bosh agent calling and saying 'Bosh is interested in coming back' before Ujiri goes after him. Considering history, and that Bosh hasn't shown any interest whatsoever in comng back, and current hurdles (lack of cap space), I don't see Ujiri focusing on such a seemingly hopeless chase.
I'm absolutely baffled as to why people want Bosh back
Holy smokes guys. This team is not spending multiple seasons of patient roster building to go eventually target 30 year old Chris Bosh... Talk about short-term memory. I'm almost speechless.
1. He's now 30+ and on the downslope of his career, which doesn't really align well with this team's young core that should ideally peak in 2-3 seasons.
2. He's not the sort of player I think about when I long for a traditional low-post PF. He relies as much or more on his face-up and mid-range game, which doesn't really speak to the true needs of the current Raptors team.
He'll likely command a salary well beyond what a player should get, given the two points above. It would be overpaying for a has-been, second-tier star player, who doesn't really even fulfill the team's true needs. Pass.
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