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    Default Greivis Vasquez, or Jose Calderon?

    http://www.nba.com/raptors/video/201...140129-3128478

    Man, I don't know about you, but it's hard for me not to like Greivis Vasquez.

    Well spoken, obviously team first, and wants to learn and stay a Raptor.

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    calderon. i'd take a dependable 3 point shot than an ugly ass floater any day.

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    Vasquez is Calderon without a jump shot !

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    Is this a serious question? Calderon in a HEARTBEAT.
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    Calderon. He used to be so consistent taking those jumpshots off of screens. Vasquez is a streaky shooter which can be a problem. One thing that vasquez has to work on though are his floaters, man those are ugly. But other than that, they are very similar players.

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    Quote iblastoff wrote: View Post
    calderon. i'd take a dependable 3 point shot than an ugly ass floater any day.
    Honestly the ugliest thing i've ever seen.
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    The funny thing is that was the one thing people from Sacramento said he did well. They said he was almost automatic with the floater. It's funny how since he's come here it's become non existent.

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    Calderon...and that's not a slight to GV.

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    Calderon and that 07-08 Assist to Turnover Ratio. Although Greivis' numbers are down across the board and I don't think he has shown us his true game yet.

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    I think we all give GV a little to hard of a time. He makes some bone headed mistakes that Jose never would but Jose was just on another level when it came to running a team. Most point guards aren't that good. For a backup point guard GV is pretty good. He's also been playing better of late. You can see he is finally starting to feel better from that surgery he had in the offseason.

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    JC is the better player, but I'd rather have GV for a couple of reasons. Most importantly GV is cheaper. $4M cheaper. Also GV is a true backup and would not create any kind of PG controversy. When was the last time the Raptors did not have a PG controversy? Seems like its been forever.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    JC is the better player, but I'd rather have GV for a couple of reasons. Most importantly GV is cheaper. $4M cheaper. Also GV is a true backup and would not create any kind of PG controversy. When was the last time the Raptors did not have a PG controversy? Seems like its been forever.
    This is true. Also from the eye test he's a slightly better defender than Jose. I think him being 6'6 helps him a bit. He's able to recover decently well when he gets beat at times because his length disrupts the other teams point guard.

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    I gotta say that Greivis is showing that he really wants to be a part of the team. You can tell he's putting in a full effort game in and game out, and everytime you watch his post game interviews, he is so excited to talk about his team. Man is so humble. I love it!

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    GV has much larger balls than Calderon. Isnt afraid to make things happen on his own Calderon passes too much and is reluctant to shoot on his own despite have a beautiful shot.

    I like gutsy players and GV is one of em.

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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    GV has much larger balls than Calderon. Isnt afraid to make things happen on his own Calderon passes too much and is reluctant to shoot on his own despite have a beautiful shot.

    I like gutsy players and GV is one of em.
    So do I. That's why I always liked Kyle over Jose when everyone was feeling Jose. We got accustomed to Jose but I always said Jose was WAY too passive on our team. And he couldn't get to the basket like Kyle and just change the game the way Kyle can. And let's not talk about defense lol. Kyle was more like the new age point guards and I just knew in time he would be successful. Jose is still good and I love him as a person and appreciate what he did for us but I'm so glad we picked Kyle over Jose.

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    Jose is the better player but Vasquez is key to our team for a number of reasons.

    - Size to guard the 2 spot (certain match ups)
    - Legit back up PG (no controversy)
    - Pushes it up the court better than Jose

    I actually like the 2 PG line up with Lowry & Vasquez. On offense, Lowry plays off the ball more looking to attack. On defense, Vasquez can cover the wing (less talented wing of course) because he has the size to do so. I think his defense is actually underrated.

    He does commit some boneheaded decisions that make you want to cringe, but I think it's a love-hate thing. Vasquez has this certain command with the ball & we are fortunate to have him as a back up.

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    Calderon is the better player pretty comfortably. But yeh the price of Calderon is a lot higher. Starting to like the fit of Vasquez as a backup though, his size allows him to play with Lowry on occasion. I'd be a much bigger fan if he didn't take those awful shots in the paint. That floater has to go, one of the worst shots i've seen.

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    Because I'm biased I'll choose Jose.

    I'm not completely sold on Vasquez yet because of his inconsistency and the numerous mistakes he makes on the court. If he were to settle down a bit on offense I'd like him more, right now when he plays it feels out of control.
    Jose provides that steady hand that helps the offense run smoothly but his style of play is passive. Vasquez is aggressive, but instead of being a steady hand he feels like a hand suffering from extreme tremors.

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    Default Greivis Vasquez, or Jose Calderon?

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    GV has much larger balls than Calderon. Isnt afraid to make things happen on his own Calderon passes too much and is reluctant to shoot on his own despite have a beautiful shot.

    I like gutsy players and GV is one of em.
    Having balls is useless when you constantly hoist them almost entirely over the backboard.

    Lowry is gutsy in a good way. Vasquez is gutsy in a fumbling, desperate, embarrassing way.

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    Jose would be the perfect backup for Kyle this season. Offense wouldn't lose a beat, and the rest of the team plays defense well enough to hide Ocho's deficiencies. But if we're talking contract in the mix, then I'll go with Vasquez. I like his tenacity, and I know he can perform much better than he is.
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