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    Quote stooley wrote: View Post
    there's good plays, and there's good execution. very hard to tell the difference.

    I remember lowry making an open 3 at the end of a game a month or so ago.
    I also remember a whole bunch of bad plays. That Vasquez one wasn't good, and the lowry one wasn't good either. Neither was the demar one in the last game we had a game winning shot. That may just be recent, but there's been a lot of times where the plays just haven't been good ones
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    Kyle Lowry said on Sid & Tim earlier that his relationship with Casey is " a work in progress" and illuded to the fact that it was once rocky.

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    Kyle also said that he is indeed playing on sunday vs GSW he confirmed on Sid&Tim

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    Quote 4hunnit_degreez wrote: View Post
    Kyle also said that he is indeed playing on sunday vs GSW he confirmed on Sid&Tim
    That's good, thought he was originally ruled out. Need him badly if we want any chance of beating the Warriors.
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    Not so hard, just say bye.

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    Quote Balls of Steel wrote: View Post


    Reading this thread reminds me of the song above. What more can Casey do? Can he find a cure for cancer? Straighten out Rob Ford? End world hunger? Establish peace in the middle east? What????
    Ummmm ... how about
    - play the players with the most talent, not his man crushes on "vets"
    - draw up a decent play out of a time out
    - draw up a decent play to end the game as opposed to an iso for a guy (dd) whose best skills clearly arent beating his man off the dribble in an iso
    - figure out when to use timeouts [he has gotten better here]
    - establish a rotation that makes sense as opposed to "hockey shifts' [he has also gotten better here ... although like the above, shouldnt this come naturally to a good coach???]

    you know ... stuff like this

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    I don't think casey know how to coach with a legit center in his team. He almost runs his team into the ground cause he doesn't know when to slow it up and pound the rock down low


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    Casey's a guy who's got a system and it does work but he needs his own type guys to really pull it off and he's got a real problem with not working to various players' strengths. That's my beef with him. He's not a guy you can trust to really develop players and that's why Bayno was brought in, but at the end of the day it's gametime that where these guys are going to be forged. I'm not even going to bring up the late game coaching which is putrid to be honest.
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    popovich speaking to the media:

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10...ay-coach-court

    "Sometimes in timeouts I'll say, 'I've got nothing for you. What do you want me to do? We just turned it over six times. Everybody's holding the ball. What else do you want me to do here? Figure it out,' " Popovich said, according to the San Antonio Express-News, not long before the Spurs used 14 3-pointers and a season-high 39 assists to dispatch the Cavs. "And I'll get up and walk away. Because it's true. There's nothing else I can do for them. I can give them some bulls---, and act like I'm a coach or something, but it's on them."

    Popovich added that the psychological boost the Spurs get from open lines of communication "engenders a feeling that they can actually be in charge."

    "I think competitive character people don't want to be manipulated constantly to do what one individual wants them to do," Popovich said, according to the Express-News. "It's a great feeling when players get together and do things as a group. Whatever can be done to empower those people."

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    "If they're holding the ball, they're holding the ball," Popovich said. "I certainly didn't tell them to hold the ball. Just like, if they make five in a row, I didn't do that. If they get a great rebound, I didn't do that. It's a players' game and they've got to perform. The better you can get that across, the more they take over and the more smoothly it runs.
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    The one thing that makes me really hesitate is the dramatic improvement of Rudy in Sacramento. I wonder if someone like a Jonas would have an equal improvement under another coach ...

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    Quote Kuh wrote: View Post
    The one thing that makes me really hesitate is the dramatic improvement of Rudy in Sacramento. I wonder if someone like a Jonas would have an equal improvement under another coach ...
    Counter that with the dramatic improvement of DD, Lowry and Patterson, a guy who was playing in Sacramento.

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    Is it just me or has Patterson really come down to earth the last few games? Don't see that big spark off the bench that we were so accustomed to seeing after the trade.

    I'm hoping he's just banged up a bit.. because then the long rest they just had would do wonders.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Is it just me or has Patterson really come down to earth the last few games? Don't see that big spark off the bench that we were so accustomed to seeing after the trade.

    I'm hoping he's just banged up a bit.. because then the long rest they just had would do wonders.
    The eye test tells me the defence has adjusted somewhat to Patterson, and I don't think he is getting the quantity of quality looks he was getting when he first came over. I could be wrong, but I think that is a factor.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Is it just me or has Patterson really come down to earth the last few games? Don't see that big spark off the bench that we were so accustomed to seeing after the trade.

    I'm hoping he's just banged up a bit.. because then the long rest they just had would do wonders.
    It seems to coincide with the mask. Looks like it threw him off.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    It seems to coincide with the mask. Looks like it threw him off.
    Good point. Remember how he took it off and killed it against the Nets?

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    Quote stooley wrote: View Post
    Good point. Remember how he took it off and killed it against the Nets?
    Patterson played without protection in Brooklyn because he was slated to have his nose broken and reset the next day in Toronto. Now that his nose is straight, Patrick needs the mask.

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    Patterson played without protection in Brooklyn because he was slated to have his nose broken and reset the next day in Toronto. Now that his nose is straight, Patrick needs the mask.
    I am aware.

    that was just more evidence for the mask bothering him.

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    "I think competitive character people don't want to be manipulated constantly to do what one individual wants them to do," Popovich said, according to the Express-News. "It's a great feeling when players get together and do things as a group. Whatever can be done to empower those people."
    This quote, in a nutshell, is why I've always been weirded out by Casey yelling "GO GO GO". These aren't ten year olds he's coaching.

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    Quote JimiCliff wrote: View Post
    This quote, in a nutshell, is why I've always been weirded out by Casey yelling "GO GO GO". These aren't ten year olds he's coaching.
    I don't think that's what that the quote was referring to, but you may have a fair point.

    I think Casey actually does give his players a lot of responsibility, for which he's often criticized.

    I think he's trying to get young players to learn how to read the game of basketball.

    George Karl, along with other former top coaches, was just quoted as being a big believer in 'chaos' basketball. As in, smart players will be able to read the situation on the fly, and make more relevant decisions for that singular play.
    Last edited by stooley; Thu Mar 6th, 2014 at 01:02 PM.

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    Quote stooley wrote: View Post
    I don't think that's what that the quote was referring to, but you may have a fair point.
    Right, Pop was talking about time-outs, but it's the same kind of thing: a coach getting up in his players' business when it's probably completely unnecessary.

    Quote stooley wrote: View Post
    I think Casey actually does give his players a lot of responsibility, for which he's often criticized.

    I think he's trying to get young players to learn how to read the game of basketball.
    Personally, I've never thought Casey does this any more or less than the average coach.

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    George Karl, along with other former top coaches, was just quoted as being a big believer in 'chaos' basketball. As in, smart players will be able to read the situation on the fly, and make more relevant decisions for that singular play.
    Doc Rivers too - he had a playcall "Random", which meant Rondo would just do whatever he wanted. Not sure if he uses this with the Clips.

    The triangle offence also works on this philosophy.

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