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    Default BasketballINsiders.com: Raps top story in east this season

    1 – The Toronto Raptors’ emergence as a top East team

    First and foremost, we have the quickly-improving Toronto Raptors, who by all accounts were supposed to be tanking for a high draft pick this season. After dealing Rudy Gay, the Raptors made it known that Kyle Lowry and DeMar DeRozan could be had for a steep price, but before they found a taker for either of their backcourt leaders, they found themselves quickly climbing in the standings. After a paltry 7-13 start and the Gay trade, the Raptors have gone 25-13, they rank as the NBA’s best fourth quarter team and they have moved into the East’s third seed. Not bad for a team that was looking to tank.

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    I wonder if any teams out there think they should have paid the price?
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    This guy should have paid the price.



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    While I agree the Raps are a great story, Ingram's careful not to mention our ascent happened so quickly as a result of the East being decimated this season.

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    Quote gametime wrote: View Post
    While I agree the Raps are a great story, Ingram's careful not to mention our ascent happened so quickly as a result of the East being decimated this season.
    But the surprises and teams are all relative. All teams are in the east.
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    Quote gametime wrote: View Post
    While I agree the Raps are a great story, Ingram's careful not to mention our ascent happened so quickly as a result of the East being decimated this season.
    Not our fault the Knicks, Nets, Pistons and Cavs all suck.

    We're just taking advantage by playing decent basketball.
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    Quote RaptorsFohEva wrote: View Post
    Not our fault the Knicks, Nets, Pistons and Cavs all suck.
    We're just taking advantage by playing decent basketball.
    Agreed, solid team ball post-Rudy era has been nice to watch.

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    Toronto has beaten some of the top teams in the west so I wish people would fuck off about them playing in the east.

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    Quote Craig wrote: View Post
    Toronto has beaten some of the top teams in the west so I wish people would fuck off about them playing in the east.
    And beat Indiana.
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    Quote Craig wrote: View Post
    Toronto has beaten some of the top teams in the west so I wish people would fuck off about them playing in the east.
    Also, teams suck EVERY YEAR. Do these geniuses think that it's a 15 team race for first place in each conference every year? Conferences will go through strong teams and weak teams, it happens. How quickly people forget about notoriously bad teams for years on end the minute they have success (i.e. LAC).

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    When they are ranked for offensive and defensive efficiency, they are ranked against the whole league.
    When they are ranked for effectiveness in the fourth quarter, they are ranked against the whole league.

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    How about the flipside? Can you imagine if we still suck along with the other teams after trying earnestly to make the playoffs (see Detroit)? The team's record doesn't preclude them from winning against tough teams (and yes, their record against teams above .500 isn't great but still).
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    I think the Bulls might be a bigger story. They lost rose, traded Deng for nothing, and Joakim Noah has led his team to the third seed for now. I find that pretty amazing.

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    Quote rapfan10 wrote: View Post
    I think the Bulls might be a bigger story. They lost rose, traded Deng for nothing, and Joakim Noah has led his team to the third seed for now. I find that pretty amazing.

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    Technically the Bulls are the 4th seed... Raptors own the tie breaker since they are a division champ

    I'm not sure if the Bulls are a better story since the Raptors were destined for the lottery after they traded who was arguably their best player in Gay. I'd say both stories are really good.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Technically the Bulls are the 4th seed... Raptors own the tie breaker since they are a division champ

    I'm not sure if the Bulls are a better story since the Raptors were destined for the lottery after they traded who was arguably their best player in Gay. I'd say both stories are really good.
    Division champs are essentially only guaranteed top 5 (officially, top 4, but without guarantee of home court).

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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    Division champs are essentially only guaranteed top 5 (officially, top 4, but without guarantee of home court).
    Right, but division champ is the first tie-breaker, which is the point planetmars was making. If the Bulls finish ahead of us, then yes they get the higher seed, but if we finish tied (and we win the Atlantic), we get the higher seed.
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    DeMar Derozan isnt going anywhere possibly the first Raptor for life and first jersey/2nd jersey we hang in the rafters! OMG So Hype.

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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    DeMar Derozan isnt going anywhere possibly the first Raptor for life and first jersey/2nd jersey we hang in the rafters! OMG So Hype.
    WARNING: BUZZ KILL COMING!


    Unless he opts out for 2016-17, which right now seems like a certainty, and signs as an unrestricted free agent elsewhere.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    WARNING: BUZZ KILL COMING!


    Unless he opts out for 2016-17, which right now seems like a certainty, and signs as an unrestricted free agent elsewhere.
    Just another way BC screwed the team. Even offering DD that 9.5M, which was widely viewed as an overpayment, he put in a player option. Ugh.

    Mind you, him opting out is pretty certain, but he could well just re-sign with the Raps.

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    Quote octothorp wrote: View Post
    Right, but division champ is the first tie-breaker, which is the point planetmars was making. If the Bulls finish ahead of us, then yes they get the higher seed, but if we finish tied (and we win the Atlantic), we get the higher seed.
    Ah, gotcha.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Technically the Bulls are the 4th seed... Raptors own the tie breaker since they are a division champ

    I'm not sure if the Bulls are a better story since the Raptors were destined for the lottery after they traded who was arguably their best player in Gay. I'd say both stories are really good.
    Wow. Didn't know that. I thought Bulls own the tie breaker because they're 2-1 against the Raps this year.
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