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    So your fear is that teams will suddenly try to deny Demar/Lowry from getting the ball at the top of the key? How would they do that?

    Overplay the pass (to deny them from getting the ball) and you are susceptible to a simple backdoor cut, which would put the D in a worse position.

    Pressure them once they receive the ball and they can simply drive by their defender, which would put the D in a worse position.

    Deny the screener from getting position is holding and a foul.

    Just don't see any possible way that this could be a problem for the team. There is a reason teams don't put too much pressure on ball handlers at the top of the key unless it is a guy with poor handles or it is an elite defender.
    I just remember that while we had Calderon, his PnRs were very very very predictable, and teams could defend them easily.

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    Quote peanutwoozle wrote: View Post
    I just remember that while we had Calderon, his PnRs were very very very predictable, and teams could defend them easily.
    Yet he still racked up double-digit assists most night.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Yet he still racked up double-digit assists most night.
    somebody's gotta put up numbers on a bad team.

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    Quote peanutwoozle wrote: View Post
    somebody's gotta put up numbers on a bad team.
    What I meant was that despite Calderon's "predictable" PNRs, defenses weren't able to stop him from running the offense.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    What I meant was that despite Calderon's "predictable" PNRs, defenses weren't able to stop him from running the offense.
    Also his gaudy assist to turn-over ratio and consistently good FG% and 3P%.

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    Also his gaudy assist to turn-over ratio and consistently good FG% and 3P%.
    and terrible, terrible defense.

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    and terrible, terrible defense.
    Not relevant to the point though. We're discussing PNR offence, and Jose was great at it. Which shows that no matter how predictable the set-up is, it's very difficult to defend.

    For the record, I was very much in the trade Jose camp.

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    Not relevant to the point though. We're discussing PNR offence, and Jose was great at it. Which shows that no matter how predictable the set-up is, it's very difficult to defend.

    For the record, I was very much in the trade Jose camp.
    Yeah, yeah, I know. Just throwing some sucker punches here and there.

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    I don't think anyone ever doubted Jose' ability to run the PnR

    More so his senseless dribbling of the ball till there was 3 seconds on the clock and someone having to force up a crappy rushed shot

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    Yeah, too many screens. I miss the "stand around and watch" offense. Bring back gay and andrea.

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    Answered in another thread:

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=esp...tartTime=02:14

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    The only problem I see with the PNR this year is that it is wearing on JV both physically and mentally. I watch Lowry call him up top and then ignore the roll, as JV stands there wide open he gets pissed. You can see him pout all the way back up the floor. He is already starting to slack on hustling all-out. The way the franchise has f'd up his utilization I honestly feel like they need to trade him, cause he is not going to resign when the time comes, it's written all over his face.
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    Quote KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Yeah, too many screens. I miss the "stand around and watch" offense. Bring back gay and andrea.

    Next.
    Did you even read the OP or the linked article? Fewer screens does not equal a static offense.

    The Spurs run one of the crispest and most motion-filled offenses in the league and they are 20th in screens. Portland is 23rd and Houston is 27th.

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    We all make mistakes... Tanking is not the answer.. This squad can ball! Let it roll!!

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    No, I don't think there's such a thing as too little screens.

    Less screens doesn't mean a static offense, but more screens typically means more chances at spot-up shooting, which primarily our wings are taking (DD/Ross)

    It also gives up the Pick and Roll. For our type of Offense, we 100% need our Wings to be able to knock down spot-up shots, whether it be an elbow jumper that DD sometimes takes, the long-2 that he likes, or Ross's 3s.

    That, and it opens up our P&R, which Amir/JV are I would like to think above average, and are only getting better.

    And, Lowry also likes his little step-back 3-pointers, which work well off the screen, as the defender simply can't get there in time to contest the jumper.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGQ6AAYtNZQ

    This video is decent, it's not the best, but it shows how the Raptors use their screens pretty well.

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