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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    For some reason, I expect these forms of analytics to favour Hansbrough a bit more..
    why?
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    I suppose it contributes to the idea that Lowry and Amir are the heart and soul of the team/ make winning plays etc...

    numbers aren't my forte though so hopefully some of the more gifted among us will tear this up a bit and show us the guts

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    Interesting....

    Quote ESPN wrote:
    RPM estimates how many points each player adds or subtracts, on average, to his team's net scoring margin for each 100 possessions played.
    Would like to know more. Seems like it is a relative ORAT and DRAT.

    Interesting how low DD scored on his ORPM...and how bad Val's ORPM was, as well as Ross' DRPM.

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    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=10757408

    This is a podcast featuring Zack Lowe and Kevin Pelton.

    It really helped me get a better idea of what rpm is and what it tells us.

    Some notes:

    -rpm reports on what happened rather than what will happen. if a player is put in a different role, he WILL have different results

    -4s that don't stretch the floor or play defence are bad

    -big men are much more important to defence, guards are much more important to offence (in top 40 defensive players, only 6 1/2/3, in top 40 offensive players only 9 4/5 (and most have a jump shot))

    -from a team building perspective, the player's numbers relative to their position is more important (so an average defender at the 4 is equivalent to a net negative defender at the 2)
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    Quote yertu damkule wrote: View Post
    why?
    Lots of fouls = high amount of points in few minutes of play.

    And Ive always figured Hansbrough to be an analytic favourite
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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Lots of fouls = high amount of points in few minutes of play.

    And Ive always figured Hansbrough to be an analytic favourite
    I personally despise Hansbrough - for all the activity he brings, it yields so few results, and he's a net negative defensively providing very little help and not really doing much in way of post defense.

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