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    What would YOU pay Lowry?

    Assume you're ownership/president/GM/whatever.

    What do you think he is worth?

    Before you answer think about, but not limited to:
    1) his age
    2) his history
    3) his performance
    4) his value to the team
    5) the ability for the team to continue to improve and add pieces with him earning $X million per season.


    There has been lots of talk in individual threads, I've never seen one thread dedicated to the topic - sorry if it is already out there.
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    Ideal 4 years @ 10. Live with 4@ 12 or 5@10. Anything over 12+ - Go with GV for 3 @ 5 -6

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    Ideally for me I'd like to get something in the same sort of range that demar signed. I'd probably go up to 11 a year but after that I'd have to let him walk. His age is a big deterrent for me.

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    Me, I would do this:

    5 years, $50M, Front loaded

    Year 1: $12M
    Year 2: $11M
    Year 3: $10M
    Year 4: $9M
    Year 5: $8M


    Rationale: it diminishes risks associated with age and attitude while also allowing the team to have more financial flexibility moving forward. Age is straight forward - he is paid less as he gets older. Attitude means if this year was not a fluke, if he is owed the bulk of his contract in later years it is only going to make it that much harder to get rid of him. Financial flexibility is straight forward.



    I would be ecstatic if it could happen at $11, $10, $9, $8, $7 (i.e. 5 years and $45M)


    He is 33 coming off a five year deal.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Me, I would do this:

    5 years, $50M, Front loaded

    Year 1: $12M
    Year 2: $11M
    Year 3: $10M
    Year 4: $9M
    Year 5: $8M


    Rationale: it diminishes risks associated with age and attitude while also allowing the team to have more financial flexibility moving forward. Age is straight forward - he is paid less as he gets older. Attitude means if this year was not a fluke, if he is owed the bulk of his contract in later years it is only going to make it that much harder to get rid of him. Financial flexibility is straight forward.



    I would be ecstatic if it could happen at $11, $10, $9, $8, $7 (i.e. 5 years and $45M)


    He is 33 coming off a five year deal.
    50 to 55 front loaded is the perfect number. Add performance bonuses if it gets the deal signed

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    I would also prefer no player options on any deals

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    I would tie his contract to DeMar's. If Demar has 3 years left I'd offer 3+ a 1 year player option. Start at 9 mill and max out around 10.5 mill. Pretty flexible on the money, but 5 years makes me kind of queezy.

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    Quote blackjitsu wrote: View Post
    I would tie his contract to DeMar's. If Demar has 3 years left I'd offer 3+ a 1 year player option. Start at 9 mill and max out around 10.5 mill. Pretty flexible on the money, but 5 years makes me kind of queezy.
    Since he is a free agent the fifth year is likely what puts us over

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    I can't think of a single player with a front loaded contract. Let alone a deal worth up to $50M. Just doesn't really happen in the NBA. So while it would be nice, I'm not hopeful. I think 4 years @ 10M is the perfect number for everyone. Maybe throw in an PO to be nice.
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    Front Loading hurts resigning Paterson. Backloading starting year 3 frees cap space when we need it for Ross, JV and Amir all need to extended next two years. Also cap space increases every year so by back loading his cap hit would be consistently spread out. Also 2017 there will be a new CBA so if Lowry's contract is an albatross we could amnesty his biggest years.

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    Cathal Kelly (now of the G&M) basically implied that MLSE is willing to drop 3yr, $36 million.

    No idea what his sources are though....

    In public, Maple Leafs Sports and Entertainment is taking a Punch and Judy approach to upcoming free-agency negotiations. Ujiri is cagey; CEO Tim Leiweke stands behind him waving a giant, blank prop cheque.
    Lowry wants the money. Heís thought about the money (which will probably land in the $36 million (U.S.) over three years range), but he also wants to feel loved. Thatís what they all really want Ė more than team pedigree or the chance to win. Itís a universal desire.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Cathal Kelly (now of the G&M) basically implied that MLSE is willing to drop 3yr, $36 million.

    No idea what his sources are though....



    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle18034022/
    Interesting. I wonder if that's just him tossing out what he feels is Lowry's rough market value. I'd be ok with $12M per though.
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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    Front Loading hurts resigning Paterson. Backloading starting year 3 frees cap space when we need it for Ross, JV and Amir all need to extended next two years. Also cap space increases every year so by back loading his cap hit would be consistently spread out. Also 2017 there will be a new CBA so if Lowry's contract is an albatross we could amnesty his biggest years.
    These are all great points.
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    Iggy is front loaded....Derrick Favors...just off the top of my head

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    We will go over the cap to resign people if its worth it

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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    Front Loading hurts resigning Paterson. Backloading starting year 3 frees cap space when we need it for Ross, JV and Amir all need to extended next two years. Also cap space increases every year so by back loading his cap hit would be consistently spread out. Also 2017 there will be a new CBA so if Lowry's contract is an albatross we could amnesty his biggest years.

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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    Iggy is front loaded....Derrick Favors...just off the top of my head
    Show off.
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    Whats Lowry want?

    Lets see how the play offs go. If he continues to lead, be a positive force and a warrior, you don't really do much more than give him what he asks.


    Guy is your best player, he's young, and he's good.


    He's also a badass..... not the worst kind of leader to have.

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    Without the amnesty in 2017 contracts like the big three in Miami ending this year or next and Durant in 2016 and others may put team into luxury. Too many big contracts signed before 2017. If cap space increases a lot signing Lowry @12 mil might be cheap

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    Quote Superjudge wrote: View Post
    Whats Lowry want?

    Lets see how the play offs go. If he continues to lead, be a positive force and a warrior, you don't really do much more than give him what he asks.
    He likely wants Max... I hope you're a better negotiator for Mercedes. Hah
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