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    Quote BigCamB wrote: View Post
    Where you at Wiggins?
    Lol, I was wondering the same.

    In the meantime, I'll try to fill his shoes: "Lowry's hurting Buycks' development!"
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    Quote RaptorsFohEva wrote: View Post
    Give that man a max!
    no max

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    Quote BigCamB wrote: View Post
    Kyle Lowry is the MVP. What a champ, love this guy.

    Where you at Wiggins?
    It'll be funnier given that the Raptors collapse started with him going to the bench (something the NBA TV announcers also pointed out).

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    Default How much is Kyle Lowry worth NOW ?

    Regardless of us wining this series or losing it 4-3, as of now, based on his play off performance, How much did Kyle Lowry increased his stock? Is he now a MAX player in this league ? Does it take 12+ /yr for Raptors to sign him now ?

    Before the play offs, I have mentioned here that it will take a 4 yr, 56 million to sign him or 5 years 62 ... now, I think the price is even higher.

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    Quote Jamshid wrote: View Post
    Regardless of us wining this series or losing it 4-3, as of now, based on his play off performance, How much did Kyle Lowry increased his stock? Is he now a MAX player in this league ? Does it take 12+ /yr for Raptors to sign him now ?

    Before the play offs, I have mentioned here that it will take a 4 yr, 56 million to sign him or 5 years 62 ... now, I think the price is even higher.
    I don't think Lowry will command more than $14M on the Open Market.
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    I don't think Lowry will command more than $14M on the Open Market.
    I'm sticking with 4/48$ mill. It wasn't unreasonable during the regular season, although a little on the high end.

    Lowry's playoffs game hasn't changed his value, but I think it does push him up to the higher end of that tier.

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    Not sure about Lowry's worth, but what's becoming alarmingly clear is how much LESS DWill should be paid.

    3 years and $60 million remaining. Yikes.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Not sure about Lowry's worth, but what's becoming alarmingly clear is how much LESS DWill should be paid.

    3 years and $60 million remaining. Yikes.
    How's Mark Cuban feeling?

    I can't believe there was ever a D-Will "sweepstakes"

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    Quote stooley wrote: View Post
    How's Mark Cuban feeling?

    I can't believe there was ever a D-Will "sweepstakes"
    Before he was perenially injured in NJ/Brooklyn, the 'DWill or CP3' debate was a hot one. He was, and likely still kind of is, Elite.
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    Quote Joey wrote: View Post
    Before he was perenially injured in NJ/Brooklyn, the 'DWill or CP3' debate was a hot one. He was, and likely still kind of is, Elite.
    Yeah, but look how the great fall.

    Is his contract worse than Joe Johnson's now (which was considered absolutely unmovable in Atlanta)?

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    What do you guys think Lowry's ceiling is? He's probably already close, but can he get any better?

    And how good is Lowry really? I mean, I'm sitting here trying to remember how good Iverson was — and wondering if Lowry is actually better. Like the analytics-friendly version of the Iverson that doesn't hog the ball or jack up too many dumb shots.

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    Quote Joey wrote: View Post
    Before he was perenially injured in NJ/Brooklyn, the 'DWill or CP3' debate was a hot one. He was, and likely still kind of is, Elite.
    He has the talent, size and strength to be dominant — he just isn't anymore. I don't know enough about DWill's recent history, but it's baffling to me that he's playing as bad as he is.

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    Quote bryan colangelo wrote: View Post
    What do you guys think Lowry's ceiling is? He's probably already close, but can he get any better?

    And how good is Lowry really? I mean, I'm sitting here trying to remember how good Iverson was — and wondering if Lowry is actually better. Like the analytics-friendly version of the Iverson that doesn't hog the ball or jack up too many dumb shots.
    Lowrys game is going to polish and mature. Fundamentally, this is what you're going to get from him, but he's just going to be smarter around the edges and look more refined as he gets older.
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    Quote bryan colangelo wrote: View Post
    What do you guys think Lowry's ceiling is? He's probably already close, but can he get any better?

    And how good is Lowry really? I mean, I'm sitting here trying to remember how good Iverson was — and wondering if Lowry is actually better. Like the analytics-friendly version of the Iverson that doesn't hog the ball or jack up too many dumb shots.
    LOL Seriously? No disrespect intended, but did you watch much Iverson?
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    Consensus seems to be around 12.5 and that's high.If anybody offers more Lowry and that team will regret the signing.

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    Quote Joey wrote: View Post
    LOL Seriously? No disrespect intended, but did you watch much Iverson?
    I honestly can't remember, that's why I'm asking. I remember Iverson being borderline unguardable. I also remember him being a shitty teammate that gambled on defense constantly that jacked up tons of shots during the post-Jordan-Prime, pre-Nash-MVP era where a player like Rudy Gay would probably be considered 'a superstar'.

    Excuse me for being old! But the league has changed so much I don't know how to judge Iverson's game.

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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Lowrys game is going to polish and mature. Fundamentally, this is what you're going to get from him, but he's just going to be smarter around the edges and look more refined as he gets older.
    His career is going to go one of two ways in my opinion:

    -his put everything on the line style is going to come back to bite him in the ass, and constant nagging injuries force a slightly earlier decline

    -or, since I don't think he really relies on his explosiveness too much, he ages very well and peaks through the age of 33ish

    reread this just now: so to sum up, there will come a time when he declines lol
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    Quote Jamshid wrote: View Post
    Regardless of us wining this series or losing it 4-3, as of now, based on his play off performance, How much did Kyle Lowry increased his stock? Is he now a MAX player in this league ? Does it take 12+ /yr for Raptors to sign him now ?

    Before the play offs, I have mentioned here that it will take a 4 yr, 56 million to sign him or 5 years 62 ... now, I think the price is even higher.
    Lowry has been great this season but he's not a max player.

    You give him 12-14 million a year and you're gong to wonder where all the salary cap room went and why they can't do anything to improve the team going forward.

    You pay max to superstars. Lowry has played awesome this year, but he's only done it for one year. To open up the vault based on one season might be too big a gamble imo.

    Lowry gives it his all every game but players like him (who sacrifice their body to no end) can start to break down physically without much notice. He needs to be rewarded for his efforts but you can't pay him that much.

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    Injuries are less of a concern unless they're career ending like Landry. Him missing a few games in the regular season probably doesn't impact Toronto's playoff chances. His salary isn't so large it would cripple the team for years.This is a reward for this season.

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    Quote bryan colangelo wrote: View Post
    What do you guys think Lowry's ceiling is? He's probably already close, but can he get any better?

    And how good is Lowry really? I mean, I'm sitting here trying to remember how good Iverson was — and wondering if Lowry is actually better. Like the analytics-friendly version of the Iverson that doesn't hog the ball or jack up too many dumb shots.
    Better than Iverson? Iverson will be a HOF'er. Lowry's just had a career year at 27.

    Iverson brought a team to the Finals. I understand the enthusiasm over Kyle after a game like last night but there is no comparison between the 2.

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