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  • #31
    white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Only LMA, Bosh and Aldridge? Not Horford? Millsap? Anthony Davis? Love?
    All are much better except Love and all aren't an option. Even, next season Amir should be resigned barring injury because bang per buck he is a good player.

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    • #32
      white men can't jump wrote: View Post
      Only LMA, Bosh and Aldridge? Not Horford? Millsap? Anthony Davis? Love?
      Tim Duncan? Blake Griffin? Dirk Nowitzki? Speaking hypothetically, of course.

      If you want to talk about TR%, Hansbrough is #10 among all power forwards, Johnson comes in at #40. But Amir is #6 in TS%, Hansbrough #24. Johnson, Hansbrough, and Patterson rank #23, #24, #25 in defensive rating. Steve Novak is #1 in offensive rating, Tyler is #11 (RealGM player stats).

      I cherry-picked the advanced stats, but it is fun to see how our guys stack up against the rest of the league. They do not point to Amir Johnson as among the league leaders, except for one category. Still, that does not mean he has not been highly valuable to the Raptors.

      Tyler, on the other hand, is among the leaders in OR%, TR%, eDiff, and ORtg. That means he should be a valuable bench player for the Raptors or many other teams. In my opinion, he needs to play at least 11 minutes in a game, every game, to really be effective, however.

      http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/sta...Regular_Season
      Last edited by caccia; Sun Jul 27, 2014, 01:29 PM.

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      • #33
        caccia wrote: View Post
        Tim Duncan? Blake Griffin? Dirk Nowitzki? Speaking hypothetically, of course.

        If you want to talk about TR%, Hansbrough is #10 among all power forwards, Johnson comes in at #40. But Amir is #6 in TS%, Hansbrough #24. Johnson, Hansbrough, and Patterson rank #23, #24, #25 in defensive rating. Steve Novak is #1 in offensive rating, Tyler is #11 (RealGM player stats).

        I cherry-picked the advanced stats, but it is fun to see how our guys stack up against the rest of the league. They do not point to Amir Johnson as among the league leaders, except for one category. Still, that does not mean he has not been highly valuable to the Raptors.

        Tyler, on the other hand, is among the leaders in OR%, TR%, eDiff, and ORtg. That means he should be a valuable bench player for the Raptors or many other teams. In my opinion, he needs to play at least 11 minutes in a game, every game, to really be effective, however.

        http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/sta...Regular_Season
        Tyler is a spot player where his deficiencies can be hidden, same as Hayes. 10 min a game but used infrequently and never against a capable front court.

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        • #34
          raptors999 wrote: View Post
          Tyler is a spot player where his deficiencies can be hidden, same as Hayes: 10 minutes a game but used infrequently and never against a capable front court.
          Sorry, but the statistics and results do not bear that out. After the trade, the team won 69% of the games where Tyler played 11 minutes or more (20 W, 9 L). Overall, the team won 66% of its games during that stretch (41W, 21L), but when he was injured in January, the team went 8-6.

          Also, check out his performance as a starter for Indiana.

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          • #35
            caccia wrote: View Post
            Sorry, but the statistics and results do not bear that out. After the trade, the team won 69% of the games where Tyler played 11 minutes or more (20 W, 9 L). Overall, the team won 66% of its games during that stretch (41W, 21L), but when he was injured in January, the team went 8-6.

            Also, check out his performance as a starter for Indiana.
            No matter what the stats say Tyler isn't gonna have a spot in Casey's rotation
            "Both teams played hard my man" - Sheed

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            • #36
              Well bosh is now making 23 m a year so he's not an option either

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              • #37
                In this article about Ross mimicking Derozan there is a gem at the end that I'm quite looking forward to!

                http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/...demar-derozan/

                In an empty corner of the Fortius Sport & Health gymnasium on Wednesday, Patrick Patterson dropped a bombshell on Wednesday.

                “Tyler [Hansbrough] has added the three into his game,” Patterson said. “All last season I think he only took one or two. We can look forward to him stepping out into the corner and having that spread feel, me and him, allowing Kyle [Lowry] to do whatever he wants to do.”

                For the record, Hansbrough took two three-pointers last year, missing both. In fact, he is 0-for-12 for his career. This will be a delightful journey.
                Oh wait nevermind .... MORE SUMMER-THREES ... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                • #38
                  It's not that far-fetched. The guy shot .391 from three in his senior year at UNC. Obviously, the coaches in Indiana and Toronto have discouraged it up to now. But it might help that missing 8 to 12-foot jumper come around once again, if he can sink a few threes. It's mostly a matter of confidence.

                  Brother Ben is on the Bulls' training camp roster. I am sure they have been talking.

                  Here is a video from 2011 against the Spurs, showing the jumper:

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyG7Ga2ZZY
                  Last edited by caccia; Thu Oct 2, 2014, 06:35 AM.

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                  • #39
                    I always thought he was a good shooter from 15-18 feet, he just has not shown it here in TO. It would be a valuable addition if he gained it back.
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                    • #40
                      mike, prague wrote: View Post
                      In this article about Ross mimicking Derozan there is a gem at the end that I'm quite looking forward to!

                      http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/...demar-derozan/



                      Oh wait nevermind .... MORE SUMMER-THREES ... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      It was bad enough when Amir decided to add his 'summer 3', but this is even worse. Hansbrough's greatest value to this team is his rebounding, especially on the offensive end, where he can cause havoc and draw fouls under the basket. Sticking him in the corner, parked on the 3pt line, completely negates his greatest strength.

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                      • #41
                        If anyone tries to contest him while he's taking a 3 he'll just shove them out of the way. Open 3s all day.

                        EDIT: Just saw this on the main website... thought it was funny.

                        "You just read 900+ words on Chuck Hayes and Tyler Hansbrough. You love the Raptors way too much. Get help."
                        Last edited by consmap; Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:17 AM.
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                        • #42


                          There was not a Kings player within six feet when Tyler launched that three. His defender all but said "Go for it!"

                          Yeah, Tyler admits he is not a three-point specialist, but do not be surprised if he sinks a few during the regular season.
                          Last edited by caccia; Mon Oct 6, 2014, 06:45 PM.

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                          • #43
                            Let's call him Psycho Three from now on.


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                            • #44
                              consmap wrote: View Post
                              Let's call him Psycho Three from now on.


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                              • #45
                                If Amir can take (and make) his 3s when he had no/very little history of a jumpshot in his repertoire thru the years surely Tyler H. can show his shot and improve his career possibilities....he was a pretty good shooter in college (career 20.2 ppg) I hear so we mustn't be too surprised. He has just been pigeon-holed as the hustler-toughie player in the pros because of his lack of elite athleticism and size as a big.

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