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    Default waaait. so the playoffs don't reseed? YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME!

    Had to make an account just so I could discuss this with raptors republics (site regular, but only commented in game threads until now).

    I cannot believe, from what I have read, that they don't reseed the playoffs in round 2. Say it isn't so! Your telling me that Indiana can lose. And we'd still have to face the heat. Meanwhile the 5 & 7 seeds could face eachother for a shot at the conference finals! WTF, THIS IS INSANE! Such a terrible system.

    I was so into that Indiana series for the hope of an upset & chance at facing a lower seed in round 2 (as any logical playoff format would do). So disappointed right now to know that we play the heat no matter what in round 2 even if Indiana gets upset. UGH

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    surprise, surprise.

    another hockey-pro fan.

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    Is there any system that reseeds anymore? NHL was the only one. They stopped...for a reason.

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    Yes I'm a hockey fan. A baseball fan. A football fan. And a basketball fan. And I pretty much only watch my favourite teams in all those sports. I don't miss a single Raptors game until they are eliminated from the playoff race every season (which unfortunately has been far to often lately).

    But regardless of that, its still a terrible playoff system. Do you not agree?

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    Is there any system that reseeds anymore? NHL was the only one. They stopped...for a reason.
    .... The NFL. The NHL always has, maybe they've changed this year (if they did it is a mistake on their part as well). For situations just like this (possibility of Indiana being eliminated) it makes absolutely no sense at all.

    MLB has too few teams to reseed. So... before this year, every professional league besides the NBA reseeded. NHL may be changing, if they are it is a mistake, but for as long as I can remember they have reseeded in round 2.
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    Quote CashGameND wrote: View Post
    .... The NFL. The NHL always has, maybe they've changed this year (if they did it is a mistake on their part as well). For situations just like this (possibility of Indiana being eliminated) it makes absolutely no sense at all
    NFL? What? I thought owners killed reseed proposal very fast.

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    Guys, I can't believe you just found out that NBA has no reseeding. wow. I can't believe this. #leafsnation

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    Guys, I can't believe you just found out that NBA has no reseeding. wow. I can't believe this.
    I know right? If you're a bball fan, then you should at least know how seeding works.
    The name's Bond, James Bond.

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    I'm a raptors fan. I'm not a hardcore basketball fan & hardly follow the league outside of highlights besides the Raptors. I do watch every single Raptors game (in full) religiously, that takes up enough of my life. And we haven't even in a position to consider round 2 for how long? Its been a while.

    I watch every single Blue Jays, Raptors, Chiefs, and Leafs game. Once my team is out I'm onto watching the next team. Lately the Raptors have been out of the race early, unfortunately.
    Last edited by CashGameND; Mon Apr 28th, 2014 at 10:48 PM.

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    Is this thread for real? Wow.


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    Lol Easy does it boys. We welcome new fans here. Not try and drive them away with a pompous "greather than thou" attitude.

    Welcome to the board CashGame! I'm not really familiar with how the reseeding system works (not a hockey fan), but it sounds like in our case, its the better system. LOL
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    Quote CashGameND wrote: View Post
    .... The NFL. The NHL always has, maybe they've changed this year (if they did it is a mistake on their part as well). For situations just like this (possibility of Indiana being eliminated) it makes absolutely no sense at all
    Why does it make no sense? It makes no sense that the lowest seed could have to face a team that's still "better" than them?

    Bracketing rewards strong play in the playoffs...which is what the playoffs should be about. Re-seeding rewards strong play in the regular season...well there's already a reward for that, it's called home court advantage.

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post
    NFL? What? I thought owners killed reseed proposal very fast.
    As far back as I can remember NFL has always reseeded in the 2nd round (divisional round) of the playoffs. So they have the 3/6 and 4/5 teams play in wildcard. if #3 wins they get team #2. If #6 wins they get team #1 (instead of #1 vs 4 & 2 vs 6)

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    Sorry for seeming rude, welcome to the boards.
    The name's Bond, James Bond.

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post
    NFL? What? I thought owners killed reseed proposal very fast.
    The NFL is unique, because the top 2 seeds don't play the first week. So there has been a re-seeding so to speak after the wild card round. But yeah, a pretty different system that is not at all similar to the 8 team system.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Why does it make no sense? It makes no sense that the lowest seed could have to face a team that's still "better" than them?

    Bracketing rewards strong play in the playoffs...which is what the playoffs should be about. Re-seeding rewards strong play in the regular season...well there's already a reward for that, it's called home court advantage.
    whaaa? Clearly you don't know what I mean by reseeding.

    it means that in round 2 they reseed the matchups based on their rankings. Instead of forcing the matchups through the set brackets from the beginning.

    example:
    winners of round 1: - 1Heat, 3Raptors, 5Wizards, 8Hawks.
    RESEEDING WOULD BE: 1heat vs 8hawks (thus giving the team with the best record in the regular season the biggest advantage in the 2nd round, which in my mind makes the most sense). 3raptors vs 5wizards
    NBA / NON-RESEEDING FORMAT: 1heat vs 3raptors / 5wizards vs 8hawks
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    CashGameND,

    I understand you bro.. especially if you're used to watch nhl playoffs. It does look unfair sometimes, I know. I'm hockey fan myself.

    Adam Silver said that he'll take a fresh look at changing playoffs format.. so maybe we'll be reseeding someday - I don't know. We'll see.

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    .... The NFL. The NHL always has, maybe they've changed this year (if they did it is a mistake on their part as well). For situations just like this (possibility of Indiana being eliminated) it makes absolutely no sense at all.

    MLB has too few teams to reseed. So... before this year, every professional league besides the NBA reseeded. NHL may be changing, if they are it is a mistake, but for as long as I can remember they have reseeded in round 2.
    Reseeding is the worst and most unfair idea in sports. Imagine you're a Hawks fan, you see your team upsetting the #1 seed and for what? Having to play #2 right after? That is not how sports should work. You beat the #1s, you get their bracket, that's just fair.

    Why is March madness so thrilling? Cause they don't reseed. Cause you know that no matter how low your seed is, you're one upset away from an open bracket.

    And BTW, if you're pro-reseeding, you must be against conferences, right? Otherwise, I'd love to hear how you think it's fair that with our 11th best record among playoffs teams, we get to play the 14th best (and 3rd worst) team.

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    Lol Easy does it boys. We welcome new fans here. Not try and drive them away with a pompous "greather than thou" attitude.

    Welcome to the board CashGame! I'm not really familiar with how the reseeding system works (not a hockey fan), but it sounds like in our case, its the better system. LOL
    thankyou. Just because I love other sports, and don't follow NBA in depth to know about a reseeding format for the 2nd round doesn't mean I'm any less a Raptors fan then anyone here. I love this team & never miss a game. Yes I don't have great knowledge of the NBA playoff format, which is why this terrible format of not reseeding shocked me so much. Surprised people don't seem to care. But it has HUUUUUGE implications. Indiana getting eliminated SHOULD mean we play the Wizards instead of the Heat. Instead Wizards would get to play the Hawks for a chance to go to conference finals. Thats insane.

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    I think the fact this has never really been an issue in the NBA shows how it's not very important. Upsets are rare enough if the NBA that it usually doesn't come into effect anyway. Both the Pacers and Heat were awful to end the season, it's just that only one team has picked it up in the playoffs.

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