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Thread: If the Pacers lose 1st round, is PG available?

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    Default If the Pacers lose 1st round, is PG available?

    I think Paul George would fit very well and I would even let go of Demar for him.

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    No chance Pacers trade George. He's just barely scratching the surface.
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    oh god, I'd give up my left nut for Paul George.

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    I am 100% sure that he will remain a Pacer for the next couple of years.

    The real issues for the Pacers have been:

    A) Roy Hibbert's disappearing act
    B) Evan Turner and Lance Stephenson's tension
    C) Their ego. It has been quite a spectacle to watch the Pacers' ego deflate since the beginning of the new year.
    D) Coach Vogel. His offence has lost so much fluidity over time, and there appears to be a lack of trust in Roy Hibbert.
    E) The list goes on and on.

    What you can confirm is that this team is a mess. Despite that, I do not see the Pacers seeking to move their superstar. I see them getting rid of Hibbert and letting one of Evan Turner or Lance Stephenson walk in the summer. David West might become a trading piece for them as well.
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    He's just 24 years old and locked in for another 4+ years. Why would Indy give him up so early?
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    Even if Pacers decide to gut the team, it would be in their best interest to build around George (again).
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Even if Pacers decide to gut the team, it would be in their best interest to build around George (again).
    Agreed. Roy Hibbert has to go. The problems start with, or at least are impacting him considerably. Vogel himself admitted that his job is now on the line, and he has become a liability. The loss of Danny Granger's presence in the locker room combined with Stephenson's and Turner's turmoil have destroyed the Pacer's cohesion.
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    Yeah, I think George would be the last piece to be moved. I also think he is over-rated. He could help this team though.

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    Quote JawsGT wrote: View Post
    Yeah, I think George would be the last piece to be moved. I also think he is over-rated. He could help this team though.
    He's not leaving, as mentioned. But if you add him to this core in a hypothetical situation, then the Raptors are real title contenders.

    He's exactly the type of player that we need at the 3, and is the superstar we're missing.

    PG would shut down JJ no problem.

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    Quote stooley wrote: View Post
    He's not leaving, as mentioned. But if you add him to this core in a hypothetical situation, then the Raptors are real title contenders.

    He's exactly the type of player that we need at the 3, and is the superstar we're missing.

    PG would shut down JJ no problem.
    He would surely make us better, but he ain't no superstar!!

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    Quote JawsGT wrote: View Post
    He would surely make us better, but he ain't no superstar!!
    Its hard not to have PG in the superstar debate. 22.6 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 5.2 apg, 2.8 spg, on 46.8% FG and 51.5% 3pt in this years playoffs.

    Dude plays serious defense as well.
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    I understand everyone thinking that PG cannot be traded, but I wonder if Indy would attempt to blow up the team. That being said, I know how silly this thread is, if anything its wishful thinking.
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    Definitely a superstar in my books.
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    I can't find a reason they would trade away their best player unless it's for top 3 picks this year or in play for other star player.

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    No way. They finally have reason for optimism, they can't get rid of him now

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    When I initially came into the thread I thought PG meant Point Guard and was wondering why the hell we would want George Hill. Wanting Hill is less ridiculous than Indiana wanting to trade Paul George though. If they do a complete rebuild they trade everyone except George and build around him.

    A more interesting question is what the market for Hibbert would be. Obviously we have no interest, but a lot of teams around the league would. For instance, I could see Atlanta send Schroeder, Nogueira/Antic, and filler to the Pacers for Hibbert.
    Hibbert is on a max deal but clearly not a max player, so it would be very interesting. Way more plausible than Paul George being moved.

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    The real question is, would you trade derozan and jonas for pg and hibbert

    We get pg but have to take on Hibbert, they get derozan who everybody wants gone (I don't) and jv who is by far better than hibbert

    I personally would never do that even if pg is coming here
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    Quote Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    The real question is, would you trade derozan and jonas for pg and hibbert

    We get pg but have to take on Hibbert, they get derozan who everybody wants gone (I don't) and jv who is by far better than hibbert

    I personally would never do that even if pg is coming here
    Yeah... definitely no deal for me.

    The fact that Hibbert can't punish smaller players on the glass or in the post worries me. He's too one dimensional.

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    Quote Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    The real question is, would you trade derozan and jonas for pg and hibbert

    We get pg but have to take on Hibbert, they get derozan who everybody wants gone (I don't) and jv who is by far better than hibbert

    I personally would never do that even if pg is coming here
    Easily. Indiana never does that deal.

    Also, lets not get carried away with Hibbert. He sucks now but he played tremendous defensive basketball for most of this year and last year, and he will probably get out of this funk at some point. There would be plenty of teams that would take him for cap space if the Raptors wouldn't want him.

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    Would never happen. This shouldn't even be a thread. I do see ATL beating INDY and when that happens, I see big changes to the roster but none involving PG. Probably start of with getting a more dominant point guard.
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