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Thread: If the Pacers lose 1st round, is PG available?

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    Quote Jordan Evans wrote: View Post
    Would never happen. This shouldn't even be a thread. I do see ATL beating INDY and when that happens, I see big changes to the roster but none involving PG. Probably start of with getting a more dominant point guard.
    Or even a real point guard.....
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Or even a real point guard.....
    I wonder how much their failures to get a decent real point guard have to do with Bird himself never playing with a real point guard.

    I think a point guard could be a huge help, but I'm not sure that Vogel is able to reach Lance Stephenson at this point. They used to have great ball movement. Now Lance pounds the ball for 10 seconds. I doubt that Vogel never tried to go back to better ball movement, so Lance is probably just not listening to him anymore. They probably need one of Vogel or Lance to go.

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    No way. They finally have reason for optimism, they can't get rid of him now
    Have you watched them at all since the All-Star break?

    Losing in the first round is a nail in the coffin for this specific lineup. Imagine this boards' obsession with gutting the team, I could only imagine the Pacers fans.

    But due to his age, they will probably try to keep PG
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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Its hard not to have PG in the superstar debate. 22.6 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 5.2 apg, 2.8 spg, on 46.8% FG and 51.5% 3pt in this years playoffs.

    Dude plays serious defense as well.
    Yeah, those are great stats, didn't realize he was tearing it up like that. Nonetheless, I wonder if that team falls apart like it has if Durant or James is on it instead of George? He's putting up impressive numbers this series so maybe they turn it around...we'll see. I still consider him below the best, but those are certainly superstar numbers.

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    Despite the fact he's their superstar, he's also the only one playing excellent in this series for them. You don't let a top 10 player go just because of a first round loss, this was his first year being a superstar as well.

    Hill, Stephenson, West, Hibbert, Vogel and everyone else except Larry Bird would leave Indiana before George does.

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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Have you watched them at all since the All-Star break?

    Losing in the first round is a nail in the coffin for this specific lineup. Imagine this boards' obsession with gutting the team, I could only imagine the Pacers fans.

    But due to his age, they will probably try to keep PG

    I meant specifically Paul George is a reason for optimism

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    I meant specifically Paul George is a reason for optimism
    Oh fair enough then. I just wonder if the GM might cash out on him for another young star and a ton of draft picks. Derozan and all our draft picks? probably not, but its going to be interesting what Indy does in the summer.
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    None of the Pacers woes are on George. They really messed up the chemistry with the Evan Turner trade. Larry Bird tried to get a little bit too cute so that he would have leverage when Lance Stephenson became a free agent. So now, you've got 2 soon-to-be free agents (Turner & Stephenson) who play the same position competing for minutes and their future livelihoods, and at the same time you lose a respected locker room leader in Granger. Recipe for disaster.

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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Oh fair enough then. I just wonder if the GM might cash out on him for another young star and a ton of draft picks. Derozan and all our draft picks? probably not, but its going to be interesting what Indy does in the summer.
    I really think they'll do everything they can to hold onto him regardless of this season. The hardest part of a championship team to acquire is a leader/superstar, and they have him already. Even if they blow up the rest of the team, at least they have a young star to build around. He ain't no Jrue Holliday

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    What in the world is going on here?
    What do you have to be smoking to post in this forum?
    So far I've heard ...

    1 You would "even consider" letting Demar DeRozan go to get Paul George
    2 Amir Johnson is Ibaka-like?
    3 Jonas is by far better than Hibbert?
    4 Lowry is, never mind just pgs, but a top 6 guard (point and shooting) in the league?

    LOL

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    Would be so stupid for Indiana to trade him. There are like 5 players AT MOST with more value right now.

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    JV is going to destroy Hibbert in the next couple years.
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    Quote YoungGunRaptor wrote: View Post
    Agreed. Roy Hibbert has to go. The problems start with, or at least are impacting him considerably. Vogel himself admitted that his job is now on the line, and he has become a liability. The loss of Danny Granger's presence in the locker room combined with Stephenson's and Turner's turmoil have destroyed the Pacer's cohesion.
    well then, how about we take on roy hibbert? then we'd have a legitimate defensive minded center (and yes i realize hes not doing so hot right now). JV would unfortunately have to come off the bench.

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    I like Paul George, but Indiana is not trading him and the cost would be far too high. And I have no desire to take back Hibbert, who is arguably the most overrated player in the entire league. He's average to below average at everything except rim protection (including all other defensive areas).

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    Andrea Bargnani averages more points and only one rebound less per game then Hibbert.
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    Okay we all know the real reason for the Pacers struggles is Andrew Bynum. Guy is an absolute team killer. He's the type of guy to whisper to Stephenson that he's better than Paul George and deserves more shots so he can just sit on the sideline injured collecting money and watching drama.

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    Quote RaptorsFohEva wrote: View Post
    Andrea Bargnani averages more points and only one rebound less per game then Hibbert.
    And 90000000 less defense per game.

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    Quote BobLoblaw wrote: View Post
    And 90000000 less defense per game.
    Yea but 90000000000 better offensive game. Bargs is a fucking beast, who wouldn't want dat g on their team
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    Quote Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    Yea but 90000000000 better offensive game. Bargs is a fucking beast, who wouldn't want dat g on their team
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    Quote Wiggins wrote: View Post
    What in the world is going on here?
    What do you have to be smoking to post in this forum?
    So far I've heard ...

    1 You would "even consider" letting Demar DeRozan go to get Paul George
    2 Amir Johnson is Ibaka-like?
    3 Jonas is by far better than Hibbert?
    4 Lowry is, never mind just pgs, but a top 6 guard (point and shooting) in the league?

    LOL
    Lol I guess we just dont humour this troll anymore eh?
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