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    Default Free Agent SF - Aminu? Ariza?

    Don't think I've seen a thread on him yet. Maybe it's because no one thinks much of him, but i think he'd be a great fit on our team.

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    - Good size for the 3
    - Has shown he can play the 4 in small ball lineups
    - Great rebounder for his position
    - Good defender with long wing span (7' +)
    - Athletic

    Cons
    - Inconsistent and has shown a lack of motivation
    - Not a great a shooter
    - Poor free throw shooter

    He didn't have a great year last year, and as an UFA and he could be a good add on a value contract. He lost his gig as a starter on Pelicans last year due to his inconsistency, but he has shown flashes of potential. And at the age of 23, there's still some time for DC and the coaching staff to straighten him out. We could definitely use more size and rebounding on the wing positions.

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    Would rather have a guy that can shoot. We already have a wing that can rebound and can't shoot (Fields).
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    Yes, but for whatever reason, DC is not playing Fields. Aminu is bigger than Fields and can actually play the 4 in a small ball. He's definitely more athletic and is a better defender and rebounder too. His value isn't that high and we may be able to sign him for cheap.

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    Quote Pong wrote: View Post
    Yes, but for whatever reason, DC is not playing Fields. Aminu is bigger than Fields and can actually play the 4 in a small ball. He's definitely more athletic and is a better defender and rebounder too. His value isn't that high and we may be able to sign him for cheap.
    I think your underating landry right now. He is an amazing defender and a good rebounder. Casey used him in small linups last year. I tjink he would play if it wasnt for his nerve damage in his shooting arm. He reminds me of a boris diaw type playr if not for the damage

    As for aminu would love to get him if he could atually shoot. A lineup of amir aminu and derozan does not look good for spacing. However would love to get him hes still 23 and can become a litle better shooter and would be great for his size. I think he could be got for as muxh as daye was got last year maybe a little more

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    Boring answer but it really depends on who we draft. IF we draft an athletic non-shooting wings like McDAniels, 'Po or Grant, why the heck would we sign Aminu.
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    Quote Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    I think your underating landry right now. He is an amazing defender and a good rebounder. Casey used him in small linups last year. I tjink he would play if it wasnt for his nerve damage in his shooting arm. He reminds me of a boris diaw type playr if not for the damage

    As for aminu would love to get him if he could atually shoot. A lineup of amir aminu and derozan does not look good for spacing. However would love to get him hes still 23 and can become a litle better shooter and would be great for his size. I think he could be got for as muxh as daye was got last year maybe a little more

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    I personally think that he would not be in the starting lineup. Maybe occasionally for specific matchups (LeBron, Melo), but otherwise stick with Ross and DeMar. Then bring in Aminu and 2Pat together (assuming 2Pat is re-signed).

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    I personally think that he would not be in the starting lineup. Maybe occasionally for specific matchups (LeBron, Melo), but otherwise stick with Ross and DeMar. Then bring in Aminu and 2Pat together (assuming 2Pat is re-signed).
    Im pretty sure he wouldnt start unless ross was traded/played like his playoff self. I was just saying what if he comes in as the first guy off the bench

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    I personally think that he would not be in the starting lineup. Maybe occasionally for specific matchups (LeBron, Melo), but otherwise stick with Ross and DeMar. Then bring in Aminu and 2Pat together (assuming 2Pat is re-signed).
    Yea I forgot to mention that. If we're signing Aminu, he wouldn't be in the starting line up unless he proves he can shoot. He would be a great pairing with 2 Pat, since the paint wouldn't be clogged up. He'd be a rotational player and someone who you'll bring in for certain match ups.

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    Quote Pong wrote: View Post
    Don't think I've seen a thread on him yet. Maybe it's because no one thinks much of him, but i think he'd be a great fit on our team.

    Pros
    - Good size for the 3
    - Has shown he can play the 4 in small ball lineups
    - Great rebounder for his position
    - Good defender with long wing span (7' +)
    - Athletic

    Cons
    - Inconsistent and has shown a lack of motivation
    - Not a great a shooter
    - Poor free throw shooter

    He didn't have a great year last year, and as an UFA and he could be a good add on a value contract. He lost his gig as a starter on Pelicans last year due to his inconsistency, but he has shown flashes of potential. And at the age of 23, there's still some time for DC and the coaching staff to straighten him out. We could definitely use more size and rebounding on the wing positions.
    No dedicated thread on him but he has been brought up in the "Play GM" threads and in the free agency thread.

    I'm a big fan of his as a back up big. Key is getting a good value and team option(s) contract with him.
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    I mean, he seemed to play well when Ryan Anderson (stretch 4) was healthy. 2Pat isn't close to ryan anderson in terms of the 3 ball, but i figured it could work out the same way.

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    Draft Inglis instead.
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    I don't see many good starting sf in free agency I think we should just draft a sf

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    Aminu is a fine player but you could easily over pay for him and then that would become a really a bad move. Worst contracts are the mid-level type contracts in my opinion. If he could be had for under $3M than sure, but I don't think he'll get that.. more likely $5M+ and that's too rich for me.

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    Quote TrossTheBOSS wrote: View Post
    I don't see many good starting sf in free agency I think we should just draft a sf
    I don't think they need a starting SF right now.

    They managed to win 48 games with a .650 win % after Gay trade.

    I think they need to keep accumulating assets and strike when the opportunity presents itself. No need to force a championship team this summer when they are a couple of seasons away anyways.
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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Aminu is a fine player but you could easily over pay for him and then that would become a really a bad move. Worst contracts are the mid-level type contracts in my opinion. If he could be had for under $3M than sure, but I don't think he'll get that.. more likely $5M+ and that's too rich for me.
    Under $3M for sure is great.

    I don't think he gets over $5M.

    One could make the argument he plateaued this season.

    Last season he was renounced and an UFA. He ended up signing for one year and $3.7M - i.e. his 4th year contract on rookie scale which is all NO could offer once they renounced him and resigned him.

    So one would have to assume that he wasn't getting many multi-year guaranteed offers and the deals he was offered were not approaching $3.7M.


    Keep in mind I'm making a lot of assumptions here.


    If you're expecting a starter, then Aminu is a disappointment. But if you want a big, athletic wing coming off the bench who still has some upside, then winner-winner. I'm in the big, athletic wing coming off bench camp.
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    Here is a good article on Aminu written by a NOLA blogger (written in March of 2013):
    http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/20...-aminus-value/

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    Quote mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
    I don't think they need a starting SF right now.

    They managed to win 48 games with a .650 win % after Gay trade.

    I think they need to keep accumulating assets and strike when the opportunity presents itself. No need to force a championship team this summer when they are a couple of seasons away anyways.
    Yeah, I agree, whether they sign someone like Aminu or draft somebody. They need more talent/depth at SF, and ideally size to go with it. Draft somebody and they develop for a year or two off the bench. Sign someone like Aminu, or maybe a Marvin Williams, and they come off the bench, or maybe occasionally start for very specific matchups.

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    Would rather have a guy that can shoot. We already have a wing that can rebound and can't shoot (Fields).
    Yeah, they need a guy coming off the bench who can light it up.

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    We need a starting SF, not a backup. IF we get a legit starter, move Ross to the bench. The DD/Ross wing combo will work just fine on a day to day basis during the regular season, but come playoffs where you play the same team in a series, that wing combo will get taken advantage of more often than not IMO.

    Nonetheless, I do not advocate going out and attempting to acquire a bigger starting SF just for the sake of it. I see no need to tie up a pile of cap space this offseason for a Deng type player. I don't think any major moves need to be made this offseason at all. I know little of Aminu, and I wouldn't commit much money or a long term deal to sign him. If he can be had for cheap then it doesn't really matter. He and Fields can fight for minutes if Fields actually returns to form.

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    Unless we move up in the draft, relying on a rookie number 20 pick to be an 8 man rotation player as a backup wing is asking a little much I think. That's why I think we need to pay a free agent to come in and fill this role. If Terrence Ross' inconsistencies continue, it is likely that we would need the backup SF to soak up more minutes than any other bench player. We can't ask that of a rookie #20.

    Draft the best player available, and sign a Aminu/M Williams type to play backup SF and start them if Ross is going to get crushed by size. If we can't afford it, we can drop someone. Personally, I think we need a good big backup SF at this juncture more than we need Vasquez, for instance.

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