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    Quote TrossTheBOSS wrote: View Post
    I remember the 2011 draft I wanted kemba walker then got pissed when we drafted another euro in jonas
    Same, I saw a predraft work out of Walker and fell in love with him

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    Also chandler parsons, Isaiah Thomas, Kyle singler in 2nd round.

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    Quote TrossTheBOSS wrote: View Post
    I remember the 2011 draft I wanted kemba walker then got pissed when we drafted another euro in jonas
    I just saw "big European man" and assumed he was another Bargnani and cried. I remember my two brothers (who aren't Raptors fans) laughing at me for that pick.

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    Guilty as charged. One of the reasons why Colangelo wasn't a very bad GM (not worse than Badcock). Smart move by them too on letting him play it out in Europe and continue developing there, rather than coming here on a shortened season, with very high expectations and demanding fans who don't want Hofa/Bargs 2.0.

    However, I was pissed that we gave away that late 1st rounder for James fucking Johnson, when we could have drafted Cory Joseph with that pick. Oh well.

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    Quote TrossTheBOSS wrote: View Post
    I remember the 2011 draft I wanted kemba walker then got pissed when we drafted another euro in jonas
    I know its easy to say after he gets Finals MVP - but I desperately wanted to draft Kawhi.

    Now, would he be the player he is without Pop and the Gang? Doubtful...

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    I know its easy to say after he gets Finals MVP - but I desperately wanted to draft Kawhi.

    Now, would he be the player he is without Pop and the Gang? Doubtful...
    If we were gonna redo the 2011 draft i would still take valanciunis. Leanord though amzig right now would have just been a role playyer for us. He cpuldve been bargnani 2.0 since he so quiet and doesnt care what people say about him. He was blessed to be traded to the spurs pops got to him

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    Quote Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    If we were gonna redo the 2011 draft i would still take valanciunis. Leanord though amzig right now would have just been a role playyer for us. He cpuldve been bargnani 2.0 since he so quiet and doesnt care what people say about him. He was blessed to be traded to the spurs pops got to him

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    I agree (except for Bargs 2.0). I think I would still take JV too. Don't get me wrong, Kawhi is really really awesome, but if he got drafted somewhere else and didn't learn in the Spurs system, probably wouldn't be the same player. Probably.
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    With what we know now, Leonard would be the choice. JV is good, but not that good.

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    A true big that can finish around the rim, has a developing post game, alter shots and has a little jumpshot is more game changing than a lengthy 3&D player that isn't great at creating his own shot.

    Give JV some time, and I guarantee he will be a franchise player or at least a #2/3 on a championship team.
    Big men take time to develop in the NBA. Its only been his first playoffs, while Leonard has been in back to back Finals and WCF the year before.

    For all its worth, Leonard has been looking good on offense in the Finals because the defense is worried about everyone else. Tony Parker's drives, Tim Duncan in the paint, Ginobili, Green for 3.

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    JV is a work in progress. Leonard is already on lofty ground.

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    I was hoping we picked Kawhi or Kemba. I followed SDSU that year because I'm a fan of their coach (since his days coaching the Fab 5). I knew that Kawhi, at worst was going to be a defensive specialist who could guard 4 positions. Remember those huge hands!?

    Kemba was just clutch.

    That said, I was stunned that Jonas dropped. The only thing I knew about him was that he was supposed to be a top 3 pick. I was cool with the pick. The Raps desperately needed a center.

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    Quote blackjitsu wrote: View Post
    I was hoping we picked Kawhi or Kemba. I followed SDSU that year because I'm a fan of their coach (since his days coaching the Fab 5). I knew that Kawhi, at worst was going to be a defensive specialist who could guard 4 positions. Remember those huge hands!?

    Kemba was just clutch.

    That said, I was stunned that Jonas dropped. The only thing I knew about him was that he was supposed to be a top 3 pick. I was cool with the pick. The Raps desperately needed a center.
    Pretty much how I felt across the board.

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    I'm tired of people over rating Leonard, don't get me wrong he's a great player, but people are ranking as one of the best wings in the NBA. Leonard doesn't have a lot of skill, that system just makes him and his stats look good.

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    Quote JordanMariam14 wrote: View Post
    I'm tired of people over rating Leonard, don't get me wrong he's a great player, but people are ranking as one of the best wings in the NBA. Leonard doesn't have a lot of skill, that system just makes him and his stats look good.

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    The system is part of it but he is very good.

    He is all-NBA defense.

    Pop said last night they do not run ANY plays for him. That tells you he knows how to create opportunities off the ball and for himself. Pop also said not running plays will change next year.

    I agree he is being a little overblown right now but if he is not one of the better wings in the NBA he is not far from it. He is 22! He'll be 23 on the 29th.
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    Quote JordanMariam14 wrote: View Post
    I'm tired of people over rating Leonard, don't get me wrong he's a great player, but people are ranking as one of the best wings in the NBA. Leonard doesn't have a lot of skill, that system just makes him and his stats look good.

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    I'm just tired of the commentators mentioning his hands 20x a game. There's a lot more to him than his hands, he probably knows how busty girls feel.

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    Quote blackjitsu wrote: View Post
    I was hoping we picked Kawhi or Kemba. I followed SDSU that year because I'm a fan of their coach (since his days coaching the Fab 5). I knew that Kawhi, at worst was going to be a defensive specialist who could guard 4 positions. Remember those huge hands!?

    Kemba was just clutch.

    That said, I was stunned that Jonas dropped. The only thing I knew about him was that he was supposed to be a top 3 pick. I was cool with the pick. The Raps desperately needed a center.
    I think jonas dropped because of his contract in Europe he did stay another year before coming to toronto

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    Whatever, it turned out well for us.

    I think in a redraft, he might crack top 3, depending on which teams are picking.

    He would be there with Leonard, Irving, Walker and Thompson.
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    I'm itching to see what Jonas will become. Can we just fast track his development by 4 seasons right now? If he were at his peak, this franchise would be in a completely different position. JV means more to the future of the Raps than any other player on the roster, by a landslide.

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