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    Anyone think Danny Granger would take the MLE here?
    Jamshid answer: Of course not , what are you stupid? Why would we even want to pay that scrub to come here when we can get better players? You are not really a good mod

    Normal human-being with functioning brain answer: He probably would but I think it'd be too risky to pay him that with his health issues. Plus he's not really a good defender anymore so that doesn't help us in that area.

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    Patrick Patterson has been contacted by the suns according to hoopshype

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    Patrick Patterson has been contacted by the suns according to hoopshype
    Really starting to not like the Suns...

    But this might be a S&T for Ennis opportunity.

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    should rename them the Phoenix Cunts

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    Scratch what i said about Lance earlier, he's gone. Pacers offered the max they could under the tax and he said no.

    #2 seed in the east is legit up for grabs. Pacers also have no cap space after signing Miles.

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    Found it sad/amusing that Carmelo fucks up Jeremy Lin wherever he goes.
    They actually made a pitch for Anthony with a billboard of him in a Rocket uniform with Lin's jersey number. Wow! If I am an NBA player and have my choice, I am staying away from Houston at all costs. Hell, Milwaukee now seems like paradise compared to Houston's disrespectful organization.

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    Patrick Patterson has been contacted by the suns according to hoopshype
    Fucking Suns!

    These guys are getting annoying as hell

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    Fucking Suns!

    These guys are getting annoying as hell
    I'm not afraid of them until I see how much they are offering Patterson, because we can match any offers since he's restricted.

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    The Suns already have the Morris twins, who are stretch 3-4's. Why would they want Patterson, to replace Frye? If so, they'll be looking for a reasonable deal. I don't think we have to worry about them overpaying.

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    Lol maybe the Suns are fucking with us cause we fired BC.

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    Default Cinco quintetos NBA manifestaron interés en la firma de Greivis Vásquez

    Cinco quintetos NBA manifestaron interés en la firma de Greivis Vásquez

    02/07/2014 | El caraqueño y los Raptors de Toronto avanzan en las conversaciones para que el jugador se quede en la ciudad

    Cinco franquicias mostraron interés en fichar al base venezolano, Greivis Vásquez, en el primer día de negociaciones para agentes libres y agentes libres restringidos informaron fuentes cercanas al jugador.

    Rockets de Houston, Bulls de Chicago, Knicks de Nueva York, Heat de Miami y Mavericks de Dallas se comunicaron con los agentes del basquetero para sondear su ánimo de venir a jugar a esas plazas. Vásquez es agente libre restringido por lo cual Raptors de Toronto cuenta con la primera opción.

    De producirse una oferta, el quinteto canadiense debe ser informado a fin de realizar una contrapropuesta. El lapso final para las negociaciones es el jueves 10 de julio.

    Además del tema económico, el punto de honor para el basquetbolista es el factor estabilidad y para ello buscará un contrato multianual, que le permita establecerse con su familia en una ciudad, además de que el club sea competitivo. El jugador tiene dos hijos pequeños y alabó el sistema educativo canadiense.

    Así lo confirmó Vásquez en una entrevista a una radio de la ciudad de Toronto, según la cuenta personal del jugador en Twitter. "He hablado con Raptors, sobre la oferta calificada que realizaron a finales de junio. Quiero un contrato multianual. Amo a la ciudad de Toronto, pero al final del día esta es una decisión de negocios, de mis intereses personales. Hemos hecho avances interesantes, porque quiero a la fanaticada de este club, quiero establecerme aquí", dijo Vásquez.

    En su condición de Embajador de los Juegos Panamericanos Toronto 2015, Vásquez aseguró que sería un sueño hecho realidad poder llevar a sus compañeros del equipo olímpico a conocer la ciudad que tanto apoyo le ha brindado con la camiseta de Raptors.

    Con información de EL UNIVERSAL.

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    LOL

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    LOL
    So they're lying too? They've just disrespected their own player and now they're lying about it?

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    A few points.

    1. Most of the deals mentioned really aren't overpays. Shaun Livingston wasn't an overpay: he's worth $5m easily, especially on a team like Golden State where they already have spacing. Ben Gordon isn't really an overpay: because of the team option second year, it's a one-year $4.5 million gamble to see if a former nearly-All-Star can regain his form (and it's not like Orlando doesn't have tons of money to spend anyway). Avery Bradley got $8m for the same reason DeMar got $9m - the Celtics are betting he can improve where he's not great (shooting) and like where he's good (defense, playmaking), and frankly it's a better bet that he improves than it was to bet on DeMar getting good at the harder parts of basketball considering Bradley has a bigger skillset than DeMar did two years ago.

    Marcin Gortat's deal was only slightly an overpay - really, it's the fifth year that made everybody blink. At four years and 48m nobody would be saying anything because Gortat is a rock-solid center and should be for at least three more years. The only major overpay thus far has been Jodie Meeks, and Detroit desperately, desperately needs perimeter shooting and Meeks does that very well. (BTW: If we want to offload Novak, we should look at Detroit.) Everything else is rumours and conjection.

    2. I think people also overrate Greivis and 2Pat, which is understandable because we've seen them and we know they're good players, but the league has plenty of good players available. Greivis is ranked #30 on CBS' ranked board of free agents and Patterson is #45, and neither of them is even the premium backup available at their position: Greivis was the third-best backup PG behind Livingston and Rodney Stuckey, and Patterson is way back in the pack for power forwards - he's ranked behind Boris Diaw, Jordan Hill, and Mike Scott (and given their ages, you can make the case that Pau Gasol and Shawn Marion are backup PFs now as well).

    Neither is the most attractive name at their position as a backup, and frankly, you have to consider what teams are looking for backups right now. With Greivis, the only realistic non-Toronto suitors are Detroit, Chicago, and maybe Dallas or Charlotte; there aren't any other teams who can afford him and/or don't just want to develop younger players on cheap deals instead (and only Detroit isn't going to complicate matters by hunting for a max player at first). With 2Pat, your likely suitors are Detroit, Phoenix, Atlanta and maybe Utah - and all of them would likely prefer Channing Frye instead. (Phoenix definitely would.) And Detroit - the only team interested in both of our RFAs - wants to trade for guys rather than sign them in the hopes that they can move Josh Smith (or, worst-case scenario, sign-and-trade away Greg Monroe). If they move Smith to Sacramento (as is rumoured may happen) they'll be taking back at least one power forward in the bargain.

    I think the only way we don't re-sign Greivis and 2Pat for a combined less-than-$10m per year is if Masai decides he doesn't want them back, frankly.

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    So they're lying too? They've just disrespected their own player and now they're lying about it?
    Or it could just be miscommunication between different people in the front office and they thought they had asked him.

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    Quote magoon wrote: View Post
    Or it could just be miscommunication between different people in the front office and they thought they had asked him.



    I don't think so

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    I don't think so
    Or its just a big fucking lie.

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    Quote magoon wrote: View Post
    A few points.

    1. Most of the deals mentioned really aren't overpays. Shaun Livingston wasn't an overpay: he's worth $5m easily, especially on a team like Golden State where they already have spacing. Ben Gordon isn't really an overpay: because of the team option second year, it's a one-year $4.5 million gamble to see if a former nearly-All-Star can regain his form (and it's not like Orlando doesn't have tons of money to spend anyway). Avery Bradley got $8m for the same reason DeMar got $9m - the Celtics are betting he can improve where he's not great (shooting) and like where he's good (defense, playmaking), and frankly it's a better bet that he improves than it was to bet on DeMar getting good at the harder parts of basketball considering Bradley has a bigger skillset than DeMar did two years ago.

    Marcin Gortat's deal was only slightly an overpay - really, it's the fifth year that made everybody blink. At four years and 48m nobody would be saying anything because Gortat is a rock-solid center and should be for at least three more years. The only major overpay thus far has been Jodie Meeks, and Detroit desperately, desperately needs perimeter shooting and Meeks does that very well. (BTW: If we want to offload Novak, we should look at Detroit.) Everything else is rumours and conjection.

    2. I think people also overrate Greivis and 2Pat, which is understandable because we've seen them and we know they're good players, but the league has plenty of good players available. Greivis is ranked #30 on CBS' ranked board of free agents and Patterson is #45, and neither of them is even the premium backup available at their position: Greivis was the third-best backup PG behind Livingston and Rodney Stuckey, and Patterson is way back in the pack for power forwards - he's ranked behind Boris Diaw, Jordan Hill, and Mike Scott (and given their ages, you can make the case that Pau Gasol and Shawn Marion are backup PFs now as well).

    Neither is the most attractive name at their position as a backup, and frankly, you have to consider what teams are looking for backups right now. With Greivis, the only realistic non-Toronto suitors are Detroit, Chicago, and maybe Dallas or Charlotte; there aren't any other teams who can afford him and/or don't just want to develop younger players on cheap deals instead (and only Detroit isn't going to complicate matters by hunting for a max player at first). With 2Pat, your likely suitors are Detroit, Phoenix, Atlanta and maybe Utah - and all of them would likely prefer Channing Frye instead. (Phoenix definitely would.) And Detroit - the only team interested in both of our RFAs - wants to trade for guys rather than sign them in the hopes that they can move Josh Smith (or, worst-case scenario, sign-and-trade away Greg Monroe). If they move Smith to Sacramento (as is rumoured may happen) they'll be taking back at least one power forward in the bargain.

    I think the only way we don't re-sign Greivis and 2Pat for a combined less-than-$10m per year is if Masai decides he doesn't want them back, frankly.
    1. Totally agree with your overpay statements

    2. Its not that we over rate them. For instance Patrick Patterson is much more valuable to this team than a Jordan hill. He fits in perfectly with his perimeter shooting, defence and rebounding.
    Vasquez brings that swagger and confidence that everyone loves. He goes out and competes. D.J. had no confidence. Vasquez loves and reps Toronto which makes him even more important to bring back.

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    I don't think so
    It's not the religion thing...but Lin always came across like a decent and character (and team) guy. If some of these team managers could blowjob some of these high end f/as during the dog and pony shows they'd probably do it.

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    Here what Venezuelan newspapers tell about GV free agency: Rockets de Houston, Bulls de Chicago, Knicks de Nueva York, Heat de Miami and Mavericks de Dallas contacted Vasquez today according to sources close to the player

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