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    Cavs with LBJ are going to the finals at least. Let's not be naive here. Who in the East is going to beat that team? MAYBE Chicago with Melo added and a healthy Rose.
    US................................................ ................I hope

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    If Bron goes to Cleveland I hope Wiggins gets shipped. I don't think he would develop well in James shadow
    Not necessarily true. It might actually be good for the first few years as he can focus on becoming a better shooter and a lockdown defender. As LBJ ages his offensive role will grow and he'll have a chance to blossom as a scorer. Similar to the Paul George situation.

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    If Cleveland offers Wiggins, Bennet, Thompson for Love who says no?

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    Quote imanshumpert wrote: View Post
    Not necessarily true. It might actually be good for the first few years as he can focus on becoming a better shooter and a lockdown defender. As LBJ ages his offensive role will grow and he'll have a chance to blossom as a scorer. Similar to the Paul George situation.
    that actually makes some sense

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    Things might finally be heating up
    Ray Allen is older than dirt and this makes little to no sense to bring in a guy who struggled all last year and is now a year older to boot. However, if LBJ says sign Ray and I will come then the Cavs send a limo to his house and sign him in the driveway..

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    If Cleveland offers Wiggins, Bennet, Thompson for Love who says no?
    Cleveland doesn't have to offer nearly that much because Minnesota has no leverage.

    Love is leaving regardless. Wiggins alone is more than enough return.

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    Wiggins would likely start at the 2 with James at the 3. This is one scary tall wing line up.
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    Quote Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
    Ray Allen is older than dirt and this makes little to no sense to bring in a guy who struggled all last year and is now a year older to boot. However, if LBJ says sign Ray and I will come then the Cavs send a limo to his house and sign him in the driveway..
    How in all hell did Ray struggle last year? His 3PT% was a little lower than normal at 38%. But he had a 59 TS% and scored 10ppg off the bench. That's higher volume and more efficient bench production than most 2-guards give you.

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    Lost in the Lebron shuffle is the Gordon Hayward 4 year 63M offer sheet.
    How good does Kyle's deal at 12$M per look against the ~16M per for Hayward.

    THe DEE-TROIT Pistons must be now in full panic mode as if Gordon Hayward can get a max deal @16M for 4 can't see how Greg Monroe will not get that either.

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    The Cavs are trying to woo free agent Ray Allen, reports Chris Broussard of ESPN.com (on Twitter), but the shooting guard is strongly considering retirement, as Alex Kennedy of Basketball Insiders hears (Twitter link).
    Frankly CLE would make a better move by signing a big with that 4 million.
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    Woj I see is getting some competition from Broussard on these events.

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    Ray Allen the way he plays could play until he is 45 years old if he wanted to. Extremely high IQ lethal shooter.

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    Quote OptimalOptimist wrote: View Post
    Frankly CLE would make a better move by signing a big with that 4 million.
    That's if they don't have a Waiters or Wiggins trade lined up.

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    Quote OptimalOptimist wrote: View Post
    Frankly CLE would make a better move by signing a big with that 4 million.
    Andray Blatche

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    And it won't cost 4M to sign Ray Allen imo.

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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    Andray Blatche
    Keep him off the raps!
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    Ray Allen could probably be had for bi-annual or mini mid level money 1.9 - 2.5 million

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    Why couldn't we be Boston in this trade? 1st round pick, and good players.... literally for nothing.
    Because Boston had large TPE.

    Raps used their cap friendly contract to get bebe and Williams.

    Honestly I like raps deal better.

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    Quote imanshumpert wrote: View Post
    How in all hell did Ray struggle last year? His 3PT% was a little lower than normal at 38%. But he had a 59 TS% and scored 10ppg off the bench. That's higher volume and more efficient bench production than most 2-guards give you.
    Shump love your loyalty to Ray Allen and the stat lines.

    But..

    Ray is now 39 years old. He ran out of gas during the long run the Heat went on and was like most Heatie's was invisible in the finals against the Spurs. He said he wanted to retire. He may have changed his mind but this is not a signing you take on in a league that values youth as much as length.

    Maybe Lebron needs someone around him that he can go out to a restaurant with and not have to worry about making conversation.

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    Quote imanshumpert wrote: View Post
    Yup it's probably heavily protected. It was likely only added because Boston has to trade SOMETHING for an actual trade to happen. This might mean they didn't use the TPE.
    No evidence of them not using the TPE. Remember, you don't "trade" a TPE - you just use it to absorb salary. Sometimes the other side develops a TPE as well, but it is a new one, not one you traded to them. So even if they used the TPE, they'd still have to send out something, such as the protected 2nd rounder.

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