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    Quote Primer wrote: View Post
    The QO for JV and Ross combined is only $10.5M, much less than they will actually get paid. Not "huge" like you said. If Demar opted in, and we add in Lowry and Pattersons deals, then our total salary in 2016 would be $38.5M, which gives us plenty of room to offer Durant the max. If DD opts out, then our salary and cap holds would be at $43.5M, which is still enough room for a max deal. So, yes we can sign KD outright in 2016.

    EDIT: There are of course rookie deals and empty roster slot cap holds but doesn't change us having the max to offer. Cap in 2016 will likely be $70+ million.
    Read Larry Coon's FAQ (or just read DanH's sticky thread)

    These are their cap holds:
    Jonas Valanciunas $11,651,205
    Terrence Ross $8,884,793

    So it's more like 55M salary and cap holds without the empty spot charges and rookies. So no we don't have space for KD to sign him outright, get your facts right.

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    Quote Primer wrote: View Post
    The QO for JV and Ross combined is only $10.5M, much less than they will actually get paid. Not "huge" like you said. If Demar opted in, and we add in Lowry and Pattersons deals, then our total salary in 2016 would be $38.5M, which gives us plenty of room to offer Durant the max. If DD opts out, then our salary and cap holds would be at $43.5M, which is still enough room for a max deal. So, yes we can sign KD outright in 2016.

    EDIT: There are of course rookie deals and empty roster slot cap holds but doesn't change us having the max to offer. Cap in 2016 will likely be $70+ million.
    This is wrong, cuz DanH said so in his exclusive "numbers" thread.
    yup.

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    Does Demar opting in or opting out of his final year have any effect on his Bird Rights?

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    Quote JawsGT wrote: View Post
    Does Demar opting in or opting out of his final year have any effect on his Bird Rights?
    Either way we still have them I believe.

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    Quote imanshumpert wrote: View Post
    Read Larry Coon's FAQ (or just read DanH's sticky thread)

    These are their cap holds:
    Jonas Valanciunas $11,651,205
    Terrence Ross $8,884,793

    So it's more like 55M salary and cap holds without the empty spot charges and rookies. So no we don't have space for KD to sign him outright, get your facts right.
    With those cap holds I'm still getting $47M in salary. Add in the cap holds for empty slots and rookie and we're around $50M, leaving us with roughly $20M in cap space. So we do need Demar to opt in to have max money.

    Sign and trade seems likely the best option, but that is how most big time free agents switch teams. Only Lebron was an asshole and left Miami for nothing.
    Last edited by Primer; Tue Jul 15th, 2014 at 03:03 PM.

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    Quote imanshumpert wrote: View Post
    Read Larry Coon's FAQ (or just read DanH's sticky thread)

    These are their cap holds:
    Jonas Valanciunas $11,651,205
    Terrence Ross $8,884,793

    So it's more like 55M salary and cap holds without the empty spot charges and rookies. So no we don't have space for KD to sign him outright, get your facts right.
    Why are their cap holds so high? I though cap holds were something like 15% above their salary.

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    Quote Letter N wrote: View Post
    Why are their cap holds so high? I though cap holds were something like 15% above their salary.
    Apparently it's 200% of previous salary for rookies.

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    Lakers offered max contracts to Melo, LeBron, Dirk, Bosh and everyone declined their offer. Poor Lakers

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post
    Lakers offered max contracts to Melo, LeBron, Dirk, Bosh and everyone declined their offer. Poor Lakers

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    The new CBA is working!

    Its just not enough to have your 3 max stars and then surround them with mediocre or unsuitable fits nevermind getting them to take big paycuts for the pleasure of winning a ring...or not winning a ring as maybe the case.

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    Dirk signs for $25M/3 years.. talk about a steal for Dallas.

    on the other hand.. Wade signs for $34M/2 years (player option after 1).

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    Boozer has been officially amnestied by the Bulls.. am actually a bit surprised by that move. Didn't think Reinsdorf would pay Carlos to go play somewhere else.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Boozer has been officially amnestied by the Bulls.. am actually a bit surprised by that move. Didn't think Reinsdorf would pay Carlos to go play somewhere else.
    They waived some other players as well. Isnt this in order to sign Mirotic? Reinsdorf probably hates paying the tax even more I think. They wouldnt do it unless absolutely necessary.

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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    They waived some other players as well. Isnt this in order to sign Mirotic? Reinsdorf probably hates paying the tax even more I think. They wouldnt do it unless absolutely necessary.
    Cost to move him, Snell and/or picks, was probably higher than the 16M to waive him. Really they could have moved him for the cost of McDermott. McBuckets isn't worth 16M imho

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    Sebastian Telfair signed with OKC!

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Dirk signs for $25M/3 years.. talk about a steal for Dallas.

    on the other hand.. Wade signs for $34M/2 years (player option after 1).
    And it seems that ESPN is backtracking on that Wade number. So typical. Rush, try to be the first, report something uncertain as a fact, something that doesn't even seem to work with their previously reported numbers by the way. And then backtrack.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Boozer has been officially amnestied by the Bulls.. am actually a bit surprised by that move. Didn't think Reinsdorf would pay Carlos to go play somewhere else.
    Hawks and Hornets are the favorites to nab him from Amnesty bidding. Boozer doesn't get to decide where he goes, it's just blind bidding, with the highest bidder getting Boozer for a year. The Heat don't have enough cap space left to outbid Hawks or Hornets.

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    Jason Smith signs with the Knicks, he would be a good backup C behind Val. Who are some of the FA left. Are we still pursuing Andrej Blatche. One roster space left, come on Masaii, do your magic.

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    Quote Primer wrote: View Post
    Hawks and Hornets are the favorites to nab him from Amnesty bidding. Boozer doesn't get to decide where he goes, it's just blind bidding, with the highest bidder getting Boozer for a year. The Heat don't have enough cap space left to outbid Hawks or Hornets.
    That'd be a good grab for the Hornets. They had to use McRoberts last year, and they lost him. Boozer would be a talent upgrade. Boozer/Jefferson would be a spacing nightmare but just abusive in the post to opposing D
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    Boozer doesn't fit very many situations although he can step out to about 18 feet...maybe houston if he clears waivers

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