Raptors 2014 Free Agency: non-Raptors thread

[iblastoff]

wizards just signed kris humphries 3 year / 13 mil. not too bad

[imanshumpert]

DeMar is really really durable I'm sure he wouldn't be too worried about an injury affecting his contract status.. And why would he care if his numbers go down if he's playing with the (arguably) best player in the world? Winning is what makes players take pay cuts, and allow their usage to go down, DeMar wants to win.

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Ok man, it's your opinion so it's cool. Let's move on.

[Primer]

Yeah, no. We also have huge cap holds on JV and Ross that year, so we can't sign KD outright while keeping DD's rights unless we let one of them go. Would have to be a sign and trade using expirings (which we have plenty of that year - 2Pat, Vasquez, etc)

The QO for JV and Ross combined is only $10.5M, much less than they will actually get paid. Not "huge" like you said. If Demar opted in, and we add in Lowry and Pattersons deals, then our total salary in 2016 would be $38.5M, which gives us plenty of room to offer Durant the max. If DD opts out, then our salary and cap holds would be at $43.5M, which is still enough room for a max deal. So, yes we can sign KD outright in 2016.

EDIT: There are of course rookie deals and empty roster slot cap holds but doesn't change us having the max to offer. Cap in 2016 will likely be $70+ million.

[Primer]

Here's the difference. Wade isn't getting paid anywhere else, and he's also getting more guaranteed money in his new deal anyway.

My point is he opted out of a guaranteed 2 years $40+ million on a promise from Riley. DD might opt in on a promise from Masai.

[octothorp]

wizards just signed kris humphries 3 year / 13 mil. not too bad

Yup, reasonable solution to one of their few holes, big-man depth. I like just about every move Washington has made this offseason.

[imanshumpert]

The QO for JV and Ross combined is only $10.5M, much less than they will actually get paid. Not "huge" like you said. If Demar opted in, and we add in Lowry and Pattersons deals, then our total salary in 2016 would be $38.5M, which gives us plenty of room to offer Durant the max. If DD opts out, then our salary and cap holds would be at $43.5M, which is still enough room for a max deal. So, yes we can sign KD outright in 2016.

EDIT: There are of course rookie deals and empty roster slot cap holds but doesn't change us having the max to offer. Cap in 2016 will likely be $70+ million.

Read Larry Coon's FAQ (or just read DanH's sticky thread)

These are their cap holds:
Jonas Valanciunas $11,651,205
Terrence Ross $8,884,793

So it's more like 55M salary and cap holds without the empty spot charges and rookies. So no we don't have space for KD to sign him outright, get your facts right.

[ball4life]

The QO for JV and Ross combined is only $10.5M, much less than they will actually get paid. Not "huge" like you said. If Demar opted in, and we add in Lowry and Pattersons deals, then our total salary in 2016 would be $38.5M, which gives us plenty of room to offer Durant the max. If DD opts out, then our salary and cap holds would be at $43.5M, which is still enough room for a max deal. So, yes we can sign KD outright in 2016.

EDIT: There are of course rookie deals and empty roster slot cap holds but doesn't change us having the max to offer. Cap in 2016 will likely be $70+ million.

This is wrong, cuz DanH said so in his exclusive "numbers" thread.
yup.

[JawsGT]

Does Demar opting in or opting out of his final year have any effect on his Bird Rights?

[imanshumpert]

Does Demar opting in or opting out of his final year have any effect on his Bird Rights?

Either way we still have them I believe.

[Primer]

Read Larry Coon's FAQ (or just read DanH's sticky thread)

These are their cap holds:
Jonas Valanciunas $11,651,205
Terrence Ross $8,884,793

So it's more like 55M salary and cap holds without the empty spot charges and rookies. So no we don't have space for KD to sign him outright, get your facts right.

With those cap holds I'm still getting $47M in salary. Add in the cap holds for empty slots and rookie and we're around $50M, leaving us with roughly $20M in cap space. So we do need Demar to opt in to have max money.

Sign and trade seems likely the best option, but that is how most big time free agents switch teams. Only Lebron was an asshole and left Miami for nothing.

[Letter N]

Read Larry Coon's FAQ (or just read DanH's sticky thread)

These are their cap holds:
Jonas Valanciunas $11,651,205
Terrence Ross $8,884,793

So it's more like 55M salary and cap holds without the empty spot charges and rookies. So no we don't have space for KD to sign him outright, get your facts right.

Why are their cap holds so high? I though cap holds were something like 15% above their salary.

[Primer]

Why are their cap holds so high? I though cap holds were something like 15% above their salary.

Apparently it's 200% of previous salary for rookies.

[rocwell]

Lakers offered max contracts to Melo, LeBron, Dirk, Bosh and everyone declined their offer. Poor Lakers

[Letter N]

Lakers offered max contracts to Melo, LeBron, Dirk, Bosh and everyone declined their offer. Poor Lakers

[Bendit]

The new CBA is working!

Its just not enough to have your 3 max stars and then surround them with mediocre or unsuitable fits nevermind getting them to take big paycuts for the pleasure of winning a ring...or not winning a ring as maybe the case.