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    Default What's the most you would pay DeMar after next season?

    My biggest concern with keeping DeMar is what his next contract will be. In 2016 the salary cap will go from $63M to an estimated $89M. DeMar has a player option that he will most likely exercise so that he can get in on the fun. The problem is many teams will have cap space that year and most will be able to afford paying DeMar his maximum.

    DeMar's maximum will be about $24M. If someone offered DeMar $20M would you want him back at that amount? He'd be a UFA, but let's assume he'd give the Raptors the opportunity to match.

    At what value would you say he's not worth keeping?

    Note: Currently DeMar makes $9.5M which is 15% of the cap. 15% of $89M is $13.3M.

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    12 -14 per year

    anything over 16 starts getting a little ridiculous
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    Hopefully $0.00?

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    If it wasn't for the cap going up, it'd be very hard to convince me of anything higher than 12.

    Because it is, somewhere in the 13 to 17 range (ideally, 15 would be the most I'd want but I wouldn't consider up to 17 to be too big of an overpayment but I would only do if the alternative was to lose him for nothing and because I expect there to be a LOT of overpayments being made during that summer by all teams).

    Anything higher than 15, I would look at skeptically. Anything higher than 17 (even 17.1), I would drive him to the airport myself (hypothetically if I was the one making the choice).
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    Depends on how he plays next season of course, but I wouldn't go over 15 million.
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    $12 Million was the arbitrary number that first came to mind, and since a couple of others have already posted that number, guess I'm going to stick with my first instinct.
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    For me the number is $17M. Lowry got paid $12M which is 19% of the cap.. $17M is about 19% of $89M.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
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    Note: Currently DeMar makes $9.5M which is 15% of the cap. 15% of $89M is $13.3M.
    I don't know if this is true, but didn't demar hit incentives which brought his salary up from 9.5 M?

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    Quote rapfan10 wrote: View Post
    I don't know if this is true, but didn't demar hit incentives which brought his salary up from 9.5 M?
    Good point.. DanH would know. I'd be happy to give him those same incentives if he'd resign for $13M.

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    I would be unhappy if it was 15 or over. Under 15 I could live with it. Lowry contract and I would be happy

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    To me it's really impossible to predict what I'd be happy with. I would just say that I hope players of similar level to DeRozan are signed first, so that we can gauge the approximate going price, and at that point I would just hope that Masai (if he intends to re-sign DeMar) can somehow get him for less than those other players go for.

    It's going to be a very interesting off season in 2016 because of that huge jump. The first couple of signings should dictate how every team approaches their offers.
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    Barring an unforeseen breakout season, $15M seems a fair number. Hopefully we deal him and it's some other teams problem.

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    I wouldnt pay him, i would trade him for whatever i can get this summer cause i dont think he is worth a penny over $10M even with a cap that is going to balloon.

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    DD's incentive was 600k for making the all star game, so last year he made 10.1M. This year he returned to 9.5M. But due to the delay in cap effect of incentives, the cap hits are reversed (last year he only counted as 9.5 M against the cap, this year he counted as 10.1M, and next season he'll be back to 9.5M. Won't know until the all star break whether he actually gets paid 9.5 or 10.1 this coming season).

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    15M is fair, as is his current contract. Due to my dislike of his game and playing style, I would not keep him on a fair deal (well, I would not let him walk, so yes I would keep him, but I'd look to trade him). I'd need him to take a 10M or less deal and a role like 6th man. But my stance on him is well known.

    In any case, the cost of keeping him is a secondary concern. If this team doesn't make strides deeper into the playoffs, there's a good chance that even if we field a competitive offer, he goes elsewhere. And that's disastrous asset loss, considering he may be our highest league-wide perceived value player in trade.

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    I gotta say 13 Million. But I really really hope we ship him out for key assets.... the more I think about that, the more I see us being better w/o DD.

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    Quote Cody73 wrote: View Post
    I gotta say 13 Million. But I really really hope we ship him out for key assets.... the more I think about that, the more I see us being better w/o DD.
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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    My biggest concern with keeping DeMar is what his next contract will be. In 2016 the salary cap will go from $63M to an estimated $89M. DeMar has a player option that he will most likely exercise so that he can get in on the fun. The problem is many teams will have cap space that year and most will be able to afford paying DeMar his maximum.

    DeMar's maximum will be about $24M. If someone offered DeMar $20M would you want him back at that amount? He'd be a UFA, but let's assume he'd give the Raptors the opportunity to match.

    At what value would you say he's not worth keeping?

    Note: Currently DeMar makes $9.5M which is 15% of the cap. 15% of $89M is $13.3M.
    Honestly I would pay him anything he wants....

    ....as long as it's not the Raptors writing the check
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    I wouldn't pay him more than $15 mil/yr. I would rather trade him for high draft picks. If you look at teams like GW or Clev, DD would only be a role player on these teams.
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    i'm with DanH. i loathe his game. i actually wouldn't want to spend any more money on him but that's bad asset management. to me the absolute best move is to trade him. a highish draft pick would be great but i think at the end of the day you have to move him and you pretty much just take the best deal.
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