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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    It's hard to compare using words like fundamentals and skills.

    I see it pretty similarly...

    Pretty much agree with you on Europe. At the grassroots level, all-around fundamentals (dribbling, passing, shooting, stances, etc...) are taught to everyone, and they're taught how to apply them in a team-first concept.

    In USA, kids are taught individual play and how to dominate on their own. So first and foremost, it's searching for guys with physical tools to dominate, improving on them, and too often catering skills development to basically as limited a scope as the player needs to continue dominating. So some guys never learn things they should when they're in early stages of learning the game, and it becomes a lot harder to teach it to them later. That's why the skill level is especially inconsistent among big men.
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    "You donít know the Bruno Caboclo......"
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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    In USA, kids are taught individual play and how to dominate on their own. So first and foremost, it's searching for guys with physical tools to dominate, improving on them, and too often catering skills development to basically as limited a scope as the player needs to continue dominating. So some guys never learn things they should when they're in early stages of learning the game, and it becomes a lot harder to teach it to them later. That's why the skill level is especially inconsistent among big men.
    But at the same time the USA game teaches big men how to play defense and rebound, something the European game greatly lacks.

    European system is socialism, everyone gets taught the same skills.
    North American game is capitalism, find your niche and put all your resources in that to dominate with that specific skill.

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    But at the same time the USA game teaches big men how to play defense and rebound, something the European game greatly lacks.

    European system is socialism, everyone gets taught the same skills.
    North American game is capitalism, find your niche and put all your resources in that to dominate with that specific skill.
    No it doesn't. I don't know where you're getting this from. They often have horrible defensive IQ, and poor fundamental rebounding skills. They're very big and athletic, so they get rebounding and block numbers just from that. But it's not like the US spits out amazing defensive players. Most of them have to learn to apply their tremendous gifts after they make it to the NBA (*or if they're lucky and have their head screwed on right, in NCAA with a decent program). The few that don't are rare exceptions, not the norm.
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    *What Euros learn too much though is the fucking flop techniques...Holy crap does Europe ever lead in that category. Asik just reminded me of that tonight.

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    Outside of the Gasols (one of which grew up in the North American ball system) I couldn't name a single Euro big man who would crack a top 10 defensive bigs list.


    Here's hoping Val will become the exception.

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    Outside of the Gasols (one of which grew up in the North American ball system) I couldn't name a single Euro big man who would crack a top 10 defensive bigs list.


    Here's hoping Val will become the exception.
    Umm....Serge Ibaka. Asik probably is a top 10 defensive big as well. Considering the general amount of US players vs Euros/foreigners, that's not too bad at all. Then you still have Marc Gasol.

    That's also a seriously flawed way of looking at it. Especially if you say "outside 2 of the best big men of the last decade"....It's like, there are generally many more American than Euro players. Having 2, 3 or 4 in the top 10 is a fuckload.

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    It is Allen Iverson vs Manu ginobili
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