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    Quote Jamshid wrote: View Post
    Didn't we just pick up his option ??
    Yes, but now that Patterson is back, he becomes a supernumerary. I doubt that Coach Casey would ever let Hansbrough out of the doghouse, no matter how well he played. The only way he would stay is if Mr. Casey has a change of heart and wants him as insurance. I agree with thead that Tyler is next.
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    A "thank you" to Steve Novak....he was a good soldier while he was here. I thought he'd do better but his usage was up and down for various reasons and couldn't ramp up the 3 pt-ers in short stints. Good pro...hope he does well in Utah.

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    Quote Jclaw wrote: View Post
    I can't seem to post tweets on a phone but can someone post kevin pelton's last two tweets about market inefficiency?










    I guess the last 2 were what you wanted posted Jclaw?

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    So 4.5 for Vasquez, and we got 4 million for MLE?
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    That last tweet re having 3 unguaranteed pg contracts (not sure if the pg is relevant) is an eye-opener plus for sure. That is approx. a combined 3 mill. which could be used ala the Salmons trade or otherwise.

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    Great trade to create flexibility while not giving anything up that is important to the growth and development of the team.

    The 2nd round is a wasteland.

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    #AnotherVetBitesTheDust


    Casey sitting at the bar with a tear in his beer.

    "Masai.....vets.....I need vets.....get me someone born in the 70s....earlier the better."
    "You donít know the Bruno Caboclo......"
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    Quote mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
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    Casey sitting at the bar with a tear in his beer.

    "Masai.....vets.....I need vets.....get me someone born in the 70s....earlier the better."
    careful he might listen to him and sign Vince Carter.

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    So with my primitive spreadsheet we sit right now at 69.5M if we consider that Vasquez signs for 4.5M for 3 years which is close to what the final number will be if we do indeed sign him up. We can be at 68 if the Raps keep Bebe in Europe for one more year.

    So that leaves us the full MLE at 5.1M and we land between 73 to 74.2M well under the tax line of 77M

    So we have that money to spend to get us either a back up centre or a bigger bodied wing If we stash Bebe in Europe next year we can do both as we will have roster spots for two.

    Heres the breakdown.
    2014-15

    DeMar Derozan $9,500,000 Under Contract
    John Salmons $0 Traded for Lou + Bebe
    Amir Johnson $7,000,000 Team Option Exercised
    Landry Fields $6,250,000 Last Year of Conract
    Kyle Lowry $12,000,000 Cap Average Salary over 4 years
    Chuck Hayes $5,958,750 Last Year of Conract
    Steve Novak $0 Under Contract
    Jonas Valanciunas $3,678,360 Under Contract
    Tyler Hansbrough $3,300,000 Last Year of Conract
    Patrick Patterson $6,000,000 Under Contract
    Marcus Camby * $646,609 Buyout Residual
    Terrence Ross $2,793,960 Under Contract
    Greivis Vasquez $3,200,000 3 Years 13.5M
    $1,300,000 Incremental Cost to Sign GV
    Nando De Colo $1,800,000 Qualified At This
    20th Draft Pick - Bruno C. $1,200,000 Salary Scale
    $64,627,679
    NEW ADDS
    Lou Willams $5,300,000 Last Year of Conract
    Deandre Daniels $0 On Roster but on loan to Euro League
    Bebe Nouriega $0 Rookies Scale if he sticks
    MLE - Backup C
    and/or Wing $0
    DELETES
    Julyan Stone ($800,000) Waived
    Dwight Buycks ($950,000) Waived

    Total salaries: $68,177,679

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    So we now have between 9 and 12.6 M to spend on GV and the MLE. The MLE starts at 5.3M, so at the very least we can offer GV a deal starting at 4.7M - which equates to 3 years, 15.2M; or 4 years, 20.9M; or 5 years 27M. I think one if those deals will be enough to get him.

    Hoping the MLE is used on a one year deal, to maximize cap room next year, unless we manage to grab a young vet that fits long term.

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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    So we now have between 9 and 12.6 M to spend on GV and the MLE. The MLE starts at 5.3M, so at the very least we can offer GV a deal starting at 4.7M - which equates to 3 years, 15.2M; or 4 years, 20.9M; or 5 years 27M. I think one if those deals will be enough to get him.

    Hoping the MLE is used on a one year deal, to maximize cap room next year, unless we manage to grab a young vet that fits long term.
    I make it ~10M
    Vasquez top up to say 4.75 for 3 years and (groan) fully guaranteed takes 1.5M
    Save 1.5 for tax buffer and that says we could spend 3 for a wing - maybe Farouqh Aminu and 4 for Emeka Okafor to back up JV and that means we let Bebe develop another year in Europe. Or we get another one out of left field like the Novak trade for something else.
    It has been a helluva few days eh ?

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    Quote Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
    I make it ~10M
    Vasquez top up to say 4.75 for 3 years and (groan) fully guaranteed takes 1.5M
    Save 1.5 for tax buffer and that says we could spend 3 for a wing - maybe Farouqh Aminu and 4 for Emeka Okafor to back up JV and that means we let Bebe develop another year in Europe. Or we get another one out of left field like the Novak trade for something else.
    It has been a helluva few days eh ?
    Well, you can't make it ~10M since we don't know what deals have been front or back loaded. My range captures all possibilities. That's why. I presented it that way and not as a single number.

    I think BeBe comes over right away. That's the whole reason the Hawks traded him.

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    Quote BobLoblaw wrote: View Post
    They mean Vasquez.
    ahhh, those darn semantically ambiguous sentences!
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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    Well, you can't make it ~10M since we don't know what deals have been front or back loaded. My range captures all possibilities. That's why. I presented it that way and not as a single number.

    I think BeBe comes over right away. That's the whole reason the Hawks traded him.
    July 10th is when the curtain raises so we will know with more specificity then just how much we have left in our wallet.
    I am on the fence on Bebe coming over. Ujuri talks about building a sustainable contender and developing players. Bebe could come over and learn here with NBA coaching and rigour much like Bruno is going to do, or, a decision could be made that he gets another year in Europe with a lot of court time.
    We have the flexibility to act on both.

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    Bebe going to europe will save us money this offseason.
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    Quote mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
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    Casey sitting at the bar with a tear in his beer.

    "Masai.....vets.....I need vets.....get me someone born in the 70s....earlier the better."
    You need to stop hating on Casey and on DD while we are at it and actually move on.

    Casey is the coach and MU has 100% trust on him

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    Novak wasted little time in winning over Utah fans. Hours after the surprising news had settled in Friday night, he posted a picture of The Most Interesting Man in the World from the Dos Equis commercials with this message, "I don't always listen to music, but when I do...I prefer Jazz."

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...m%2Frumors.htm
    Novak hoping for chance to be relevant again. Long article.

    Good luck Steve!
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    Good article. Nice to see Novak rolling with it. Hope he finds a home there, for himself and his family.

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    novak always seemed like a good guy he just sucked and i hated when he was on the court
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    Quote Jamshid wrote: View Post
    You need to stop hating on Casey and on DD while we are at it and actually move on.

    Casey is the coach and MU has 100% trust on him
    Right, cuz pointing out a well-known trait in the form of a joke is hating right? They're the exact same thing
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