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    Quote iblastoff wrote: View Post
    Seriously? We definitely aren't a year or two away from contending. People need to start tempering their expectations a bit or prepare to be really disappointed.
    When I see your posts lately I am so amazed. You are not the same guy who was posting all year. You used to get at me anytime I said anything negative about our team. Now you're so much more negative because of our first round exit (that I said would happen btw Lol) and you got at me so hard for even thinking we would lose. I like this new blastoff though, much more of a realist.

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    Quote GLF wrote: View Post
    When I see your posts lately I am so amazed. You are not the same guy who was posting all year. You used to get at me anytime I said anything negative about our team. Now you're so much more negative because of our first round exit (that I said would happen btw Lol) and you got at me so hard for even thinking we would lose. I like this new blastoff though, much more of a realist.
    We aren't contending. A conference run seems attainable. No team is considered contender without being a conference leader. With Casey we aren't contenders but if we lead or finish #2 in the conference, suddenly playoff coaches become available.

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    Default Can Raptors compete for #1 seed in east this upcoming season?

    Quote GLF wrote: View Post
    When I see your posts lately I am so amazed. You are not the same guy who was posting all year. You used to get at me anytime I said anything negative about our team. Now you're so much more negative because of our first round exit (that I said would happen btw Lol) and you got at me so hard for even thinking we would lose. I like this new blastoff though, much more of a realist.
    We could have beat brooklyn to make a second round exit. It almost happened and were fully capable of doing so. Your issue is just pure insecurity about everything. According to you, kyle lowry was a for sure goner. Same with ppat etc etc. But hey I'm sure you're "glad" you're wrong about these things!

    But true contention when our best players are kyle and demar is just not going to happen. That's not casting doubt and insecurity. We can still be a good team without contending, which is who we're gonna be until a real roster shakeup happens.

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    Default Can Raptors compete for #1 seed in east this upcoming season?

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    New York, even with Carmelo Anthony back, will be fighting for a lower-tier seed in my opinion. Their roster is in need of serious re structuring, and they are stacked heavily at the 1 and 2 positions. If they can move around some assets for quality bigs, and retain Anthony, they can still be in the top 8. That, like everything else, remains to be seen.
    People are already forgetting that pretty much the same NY team had 50+ wins the previous season.

    I think we're gonna be the ones fighting for a lower tiered seed. Pretty much all media out there said we overachieved last season, and we definitely got worse as the season started winding down while the other east teams got better, including the paltry Knicks.
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    Guys, I love the spirit but you're dreaming. Unless MU has a couple stars up his sleeve there is no chance of the Raptors getting the top spot in the east. We all need to temper our expectations. They're still at the begging stages of a rebuild. Be thankful they've been able to compete because MU is really just getting started.

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    Lol no.

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    Even if LeBron stays in the Heat, doesn't mean they'll have the #1 record. They only won 54 games this year at #2 seed to Pacers, and considering their future doesn't look so well for Wade and their role players most certainly we can pass them. Only thing that worries me is Chicago.

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    Quote iblastoff wrote: View Post
    We could have beat brooklyn to make a second round exit. It almost happened and were fully capable of doing so. Your issue is just pure insecurity about everything. According to you, kyle lowry was a for sure goner. Same with ppat etc etc. But hey I'm sure you're "glad" you're wrong about these things!

    But true contention when our best players are kyle and demar is just not going to happen. That's not casting doubt and insecurity. We can still be a good team without contending, which is who we're gonna be until a real roster shakeup happens.
    No I agree with you for sure. We definitely aren't contending and won't get the number 1 or 2 spot in the East but I don't think we're going to be fighting for a lower tiered seed. I think that's a little negative. We're better than that in my eyes. Not saying it won't happen but I think we definitely win our division and that at least gives us the fourth seed. Unless Brooklyn or New York make some big time splash in a trade or free agency.

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    According to this: http://www.mangameslost.com/end-2013...april-17-2014/
    we lost the second-fewest man-games to injury among the 27 teams that reported. Fortunately we are fairly deep and that helps, plus we have Alex Mckechnie, but shit happens

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    What they didn't take into account on that is Amir lowry and demar all playing injuried for a solid amount of the year
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    What they didn't take into account on that is Amir lowry and demar all playing injuried for a solid amount of the year
    Amir probably was injured for at least 40 games.
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    The top 4 and up to and including 55 wins is possible. I'd go so far as to say top 2. But until the dust settles on Miami there is no clear top dog right now and anything is technically possible

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    Quote iblastoff wrote: View Post
    People are already forgetting that pretty much the same NY team had 50+ wins the previous season.

    I think we're gonna be the ones fighting for a lower tiered seed. Pretty much all media out there said we overachieved last season, and we definitely got worse as the season started winding down while the other east teams got better, including the paltry Knicks.
    Wow. Pretty negative.

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    Quote psrs1 wrote: View Post
    Wow. Pretty negative.
    whats so negative about that? we DID play worse at the end. knicks DID get better and were on fire for a while.

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    Quote Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    What they didn't take into account on that is Amir lowry and demar all playing injuried for a solid amount of the year
    Even with 60 more man games lost to injury we still would be 20th fewest.

    We got really lucky. All I'm saying is that it was anomalous. We would have to be very lucky to get that kind of healthy streak again.

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    Quote Scraptor wrote: View Post
    Even with 60 more man games lost to injury we still would be 20th fewest.

    We got really lucky. All I'm saying is that it was anomalous. We would have to be very lucky to get that kind of healthy streak again.
    It's also because the Raptors are one of the youngest teams in the league.

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    The Pacers won the 1st seed last year, so no reason we couldn't this year. It's still too early to make an informed prediction though. Lots of big FA still on the market.

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    Too early to tell. I'm sure that we can be a top 2 or 3 seed though.

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    Quote Scraptor wrote: View Post
    Even with 60 more man games lost to injury we still would be 20th fewest.

    We got really lucky. All I'm saying is that it was anomalous. We would have to be very lucky to get that kind of healthy streak again.
    I believe that having one of the best health/strength/training/rehab teams in the league helps out as well. Thee raptors are at the forefront, top five in the league I believe in terms of conditioning and rehab.
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    I believe that having one of the best health/strength/training/rehab teams in the league helps out as well. Thge raptors are at the forefront, top five in the league I believe in terms of conditioning and rehab.
    Yea I think that and us being pretty young is what helped us out. Also only Kyle and Amir are known to be a little injury prone and Amir always plays through his injuries. But luck was definitely a factor as well.

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    Quote GLF wrote: View Post
    Yea I think that and us being pretty young is what helped us out. Also only Kyle and Amir are known to be a little injury prone and Amir always plays through his injuries. But luck was definitely a factor as well.
    Can't argue. Luck for sure. I remember comments on how lucky they were injury wise starting to be made last December.And being one of the younger teams in the league means more flexibility and shorter recovery times.

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