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Thread: Hypothetical: Would you trade DD/Amir to get Wiggins/Bennett?

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    Quote Garbo wrote: View Post
    I put out a trade proposal earlier but it didn't go over too well. I think an offer of Derozan / Val / TRoss for Wiggins / Bennett / Verajao actually makes a lot of sense for Cleveland. It also frees up cap space to make an offer to Kevin Love. We'll save our cap space to make an offer to Durant later.

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    Pretty sure enlightenment was saying Val for Wiggins straight. NOT whatever this is supposed to be.
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    Fair enough. Again, I don't disagree with you.
    I will say, assuming that Derozan is going to be in Toronto long term is just as dangerous as assuming Wiggins is going to be an allstar. When Derozan is free to make his choice, and LA is calling... Well, I'm going to be wishing that I hadn't valued him so highly when the most exciting Canadian basketball player was on the market.

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    Quote Garbo wrote: View Post
    Fair enough. Again, I don't disagree with you.
    I will say, assuming that Derozan is going to be in Toronto long term is just as dangerous as assuming Wiggins is going to be an allstar. When Derozan is free to make his choice, and LA is calling... Well, I'm going to be wishing that I hadn't valued him so highly when the most exciting Canadian basketball player was on the market.
    And dude, you added the BALTIC BEAST in that trade...? Allstar + Future Allstar + Terrence Ross for Wiggins? come on man..
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    Who would be interested in a Val for Wiggins swap?
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    Tough call. I don't think I would. I don't think Cleveland would either. I don't think they move wiggins unless they get a Love type player. I don't see the point of having Demar next to LBJ and Irving honestly. I think they would be better off with Wiggins as a defender than Demar as a scorer.

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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Who would be interested in a Val for Wiggins swap?
    Not me. Not yet anyways.

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    Quote JawsGT wrote: View Post
    Tough call. I don't think I would. I don't think Cleveland would either. I don't think they move wiggins unless they get a Love type player. I don't see the point of having Demar next to LBJ and Irving honestly. I think they would be better off with Wiggins as a defender than Demar as a scorer.
    The idea would be to ship Amir and DD to Minnesota, Love to Cleveland, and Wiggins/Bennet to Toronto. DD would be on Minny not Cleveland.

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    I know. It's madness. I LOVE JV! But, I think that's what it would cost, and I would pay it up. I'm having second thoughts about including Ross, and would rather package a first rounder instead. But I'll still stand by that trade.

    Verajao / Hayes / Bebe
    Amir / Patterson
    Wiggins / Johnson / KD Brazil
    Ross / Lou / Fields
    Lowry / Greasy

    Yeah, I can live with that. An upgrade at center can be made, but that core is set to grow for a good long time together. Demar could be gone in two years.

    All your points are good. I'd still do it.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    The idea would be to ship Amir and DD to Minnesota, Love to Cleveland, and Wiggins/Bennet to Toronto. DD would be on Minny not Cleveland.
    I would do that in a heartbeat, though I would be asking for more if I'm Minnesota

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    Ouff right in the feels.
    I don't know... I'll say no.
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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Who would be interested in a Val for Wiggins swap?
    How bout Bebe for Wiggins? hahaha

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    I say no.

    Keep going with what raps have going.

    Let wiggins figure out who and what he is on someone else's dime.

    The force is strong and if raps become organization masai and Tim proclaiming, wiggins will work his way to toronto.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    The idea would be to ship Amir and DD to Minnesota, Love to Cleveland, and Wiggins/Bennet to Toronto. DD would be on Minny not Cleveland.
    aaah, well that makes more sense from a fit standpoint. I wonder if Minny would do it? I'm not sure they would, I think Amir would have to replaced in that trade scenario or another asset or two added. I guess CLE would send picks to Minny as well so that may be an attractive offer indeed.

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    Quote mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
    I say no.

    Keep going with what raps have going.

    Let wiggins figure out who and what he is on someone else's dime.

    The force is strong and if raps become organization masai and Tim proclaiming, wiggins will work his way to toronto.
    Further to this, put forth an offer sheet of 2 years max.

    Wiggins will be a raptor when he is 25.
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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    The idea would be to ship Amir and DD to Minnesota, Love to Cleveland, and Wiggins/Bennet to Toronto. DD would be on Minny not Cleveland.
    If Amir and DD is enough to get Love, why not just get Love? I mean, I guess there's no guarantee he signs here, but Love is a much better commodity than Wiggins right now, disregarding free agent status (which you can't really do, but still).

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    Absolutly not.

    As much as would love to have them on the roster at some point, those kids have done nothing yet except being born in Canada. Why are we not talking about getting parker or any other promising youngster ?

    People denied it before, but Lowry confirmed it after the signing became official DD is a huge part of him resigning, killing chemistry & momentum so we can have a canadian on the team ?

    After the trade then what ? 3-6 seasons of mediocrity, Unfair pressure on the Kids, then Jersey burning when they leave ?

    Let them figure themselves out at a normal NBA pace, Let us know what kind of players they become, then get them home.

    Lets get Sacre as our back up big for a few years then lets revisit Wiggins/Bennett.

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    Based on the rumour of what Cavs are offering (Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett, Andrew Wiggins and a pick) DD and Amir won't cut it.

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    Quote Letter N wrote: View Post
    Based on the rumour of what Cavs are offering (Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett, Andrew Wiggins and a pick) DD and Amir won't cut it.
    What rumours?
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    Quote Letter N wrote: View Post
    Based on the rumour of what Cavs are offering (Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett, Andrew Wiggins and a pick) DD and Amir won't cut it.
    Issue with Minny is that they want to win now. They have been out of the playoffs for I believe 10 years. Losing Love for a set of prospects and a pick seems like a steal for Minny but that could mean 3-4 more years without sniffing the playoffs. Toronto could offer DD/Amir and a couple of picks and they have a better chance of making the playoffs than they would with Waiters and Wiggins.

    I don't think MU makes the trade anyway so it's all a moot point. He's been pretty clear on the radio that he wants to keep the same team as last year. No big changes.. not yet anyway.

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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Maybe for Klove? But not for Wiggins. There is no guarantee Wiggins becomes better than Derozan. Where as Kevin Love is 25, is the craziest rebounder in the league, and is supremely skilled in every facet of the game.
    And for that reason is the only way the Cavs would agree to a deal.

    If there was an actual guarantee that Wiggins would be better than Derozan. Then what the hell would be the point of making that trade(from Cleveland's POV)?
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