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JordanMariam14 wrote: View PostIrving is overrated, how was he an All Star Starter? Lowry would be much better for the Cavs..
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planetmars wrote: View PostWith James going to Cleveland, Irving will now probably be a perennial all-star. Sucks for Lowry.
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Primer wrote: View PostThis offseason has shown you can get a discount and a better player if you just go after guys who are not coming off rookie deals. Lowry for $6M less per year than Irving is a great example. Parsons and Hayward's deals are examples of overpays, and then Deng and Ariza deals are examples of far less money for arguably better players (at least comparable).
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IMO, both LBJ and Irving are going to have to learn to share the ball-handling and shot creating duties. I doubt LBJ would have an issue with this, considering he just left a team where he was, for the most part, the only ball handler and shot creator and ultimately lost in the finals. This was probably one of the reasons he left, as Wade had outlived his usefulness as a side-kick, and no one else on the team could handle that role. LBJ doesn't want to do it all himself, and Wiggins obviously isn't ready. It should be interesting to see how LBJ and Irving mesh.
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The East is going to be much stronger this year
Primer wrote: View PostIrving is the second best player or that team by a country mile. If he goes down, it's like Wade or Bosh (more likely both) going down in Miami. The team struggled mightily when one of the big 3 was out, let alone both.
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iblastoff wrote: View PostWhen did they struggle mightily?? They still got 56 wins and that's with wade sitting out half the season.
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My Prediction:
1. Cavs:
Irving / Dellavadova
Waiters / M.Miller / Ray Allen ? / Harris / Felix
LeBron / Wiggins / Bennett
Thompson / Powell
Verajao / Haywood
2. Bulls
D.Rose / Fredette / M.James
Hinrich / Snell
J.Butler / Dunleavy / McDermott
P.Gasol / T.Gibson / Bairstow / Amundson
Noah / Mohammed
3. Wizards
Wall / A.Miller
Beal / Temple / Rice
Pierce / Webster / Harrington / Porter
Nene / Humphries / Singleton / Gooden
Gortat / Seraphin
4. Raptors
Lowry / Vasquez / Buycks
DeRozan / L.Williams / Fields
Ross / J.Johnson / Caboclo
A.Johnson / Patterson / Hayes
Valinciunas / Hansborough / Bebe
5. Pacers
Hill / Watson / Sloan
Stevenson / Miles
George / R. Butler / S.Hill / Rudez
West / Scola / Copeland
Hibbert /L. Allen
6. Heat
Chalmers / Naiper / Cole
Wade / Granger / Douglas
Deng / Beasely / J.Jones
Bosh / McRoberts / Haslem
C.Anderson / Oden / Hamilton
7. Pistons
Jennings / Augustine / R.Stucky / W.Bynum
Meeks / Caldwell-Pope / Dinwiddlie
J.Smith / C.Butler / T.Mitchell / Singular / Datome
Monroe / Jerebko / Villanueva
Drummond
8. Nets
D.Williams / J.Jack / M.Teague / Gutierrez
A.Anderson / Karasev / M.Brown
J.Johnson / C.Jefferson
Garnett / Teletovic / Kirilenko
B.Lopez / M.Plumlee / J.Collins
9. Knicks
Calderon / Larkin / Prigioni
JR. Smith / Hardaway / Ellington
Anthony / Shumpert / C.Early / Antetokounmpo
A.Stoudamire / J. Smith / K.Martin
Dalembert / Barganani / Aldrich
10. Hawks
J.Teague / Mack / Schroder
Korver / Sefalosha / L.Patterson
Milsap / Caroll / M.Scott / C.Martin
Payne / Brand / Ayon
Horford / Antic / Tavares / Muscala
11. Bucks
Knight / Sessions
O.J Mayo / Delfino / Wolters
J.Parker / G.Antetokounpo / Middleton / Inglis
Henson / Ilyasova / Udoh
Sandars / Pacullia / Raduljica
12 Hornets
K.Walker / Ridnour / Pargo
Henderson / G.Neal
P.J Hairston / J.Taylor / Roberts / Tolliver
N.Vonleh / Gilchrist / Zeller / White
Al-Jefferson / Biyombo
13. Celtics
Rondo / Bayless / Thronton / Pressey
A.Bradley / Smart / Bogans
Green / J.Young / G.Wallace
Bass / Sullinger / T.Zeller
Olynyk / Faverani / J.Anthony
14. Magic
E.Payton / Fournier / W.Green
Oladipo / B.Gordon / Moore
T.Harris / A.Gordon / Harkless / Nicholson
C.Frye / O'Quinn / A.Randolph
Vucevic / Dedmon
15. Sixers
M.C.Williams / E.Williams
T.Wrotten / James Anderson / McRae / H.Thompson
T.Young / K.J Mcdaniels / Jerami Grant
D.Saric / Moultrie / Varnado / Davies
Embiid / Noel / Sims / MullensLast edited by rapba; Tue Jul 15, 2014, 08:25 PM.
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rapba wrote: View PostMy Prediction:
1. Cavs:
Irving / Dellavadova
Waiters / M.Miller / Ray Allen ? / Harris / Felix
LeBron / Wiggins / Bennett
Thompson / Powell
Verajao / Haywood
2. Bulls
D.Rose / Fredette / M.James
Hinrich / Snell
J.Butler / Dunleavy / McDermott
P.Gasol / T.Gibson / Bairstow / Amundson
Noah / Mohammed
3. Wizards
Wall / A.Miller
Beal / Temple / Rice
Pierce / Webster / Harrington / Porter
Nene / Humphries / Singleton / Gooden
Gortat / Seraphin
4. Raptors
Lowry / Vasquez / Buycks
DeRozan / L.Williams / Fields
Ross / J.Johnson / Caboclo
A.Johnson / Patterson / Hayes
Valinciunas / Hansborough / Bebe
5. Pacers
Hill / Watson / Sloan
Stevenson / Miles
George / R. Butler / S.Hill / Rudez
West / Scola / Copeland
Hibbert /L. Allen
6. Heat
Chalmers / Naiper / Cole
Wade / Granger / Douglas
Deng / Beasely / J.Jones
Bosh / McRoberts / Haslem
C.Anderson / Oden / Hamilton
7. Pistons
Jennings / Augustine / R.Stucky / W.Bynum
Meeks / Caldwell-Pope / Dinwiddlie
J.Smith / C.Butler / T.Mitchell / Singular / Datome
Monroe / Jerebko / Villanueva
Drummond
8. Nets
D.Williams / J.Jack / M.Teague / Gutierrez
A.Anderson / Karasev / M.Brown
J.Johnson / C.Jefferson
Garnett / Teletovic / Kirilenko
B.Lopez / M.Plumlee / J.Collins
9. Knicks
Calderon / Larkin / Prigioni
JR. Smith / Hardaway / Ellington
Anthony / Shumpert / C.Early / Antetokounmpo
A.Stoudamire / K.Martin
Dalembert / Barganani / Aldrich
10. Hawks
J.Teague / Mack / Schroder
Korver / Sefalosha / L.Patterson
Milsap / Caroll / M.Scott / C.Martin
Payne / Brand / Ayon
Horford / Antic / Tavares / Muscala
11. Bucks
Knight / Sessions
O.J Mayo / Delfino / Wolters
J.Parker / G.Antetokounpo / Middleton / Inglis
Henson / Ilyasova / Udoh
Sandars / Pacullia / Raduljica
12 Hornets
K.Walker / Ridnour / Pargo
Henderson / G.Neal
P.J Hairston / J.Taylor / Roberts / Tolliver
N.Vonleh / Gilchrist / Zeller / White
Al-Jefferson / Biyombo
13. Celtics
Rondo / Bayless / Thronton / Pressey
A.Bradley / Smart / Bogans
Green / J.Young / G.Wallace
Bass / Sullinger / T.Zeller
Olynyk / Faverani / J.Anthony
14. Magic
E.Payton / Fournier / W.Green
Oladipo / B.Gordon / Moore
T.Harris / A.Gordon / Harkless / Nicholson
C.Frye / O'Quinn / A.Randolph
Vucevic / Dedmon
15. Sixers
M.C.Williams / E.Williams
T.Wrotten / James Anderson / McRae / H.Thompson
T.Young / K.J Mcdaniels / Jerami Grant
D.Saric / Moultrie / Varnado / Davies
Embiid / Noel / Sims / Mullens
Hawks at 10 seems a little ridiculous considering they didn't lose anyone, and are adding Horford back plus some good defenders from free agency.
The Knicks are going to be abysmally bad. That roster straight up sucks.
No idea how the Pistons make that jump when they're returning essentially the exact same dysfunctional roster.
The Nets have gotten worse losing Pierce, not even sure if they're still a playoff team.
No love for Charlotte either is a bit harsh.
My prediction:
1. Bulls
2. Raptors
3. Pacers
4. Wizards
5. Cavaliers
6. Hawks
7. Heat
8. Hornets
I expect it to be a fairly tight race too (all teams records relatively close). Not sure that a sub .500 team makes the playoffs in the East this year.
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Primer wrote: View PostDid they not fall out of first place while Wade was on the bench? I guess "mightily" was unnecessary, but they definitely struggled without Wade. Losing Irving would be kinda the equivalent of losing both Wade and Bosh though, as Cleveland doesn't have anyone else close to their talents except Irving. Bosh could pick up some of the slack when Wade was out, who does that in Cleveland while Irving is out? Waiters? Yikes......@Boymusic66
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