Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

The East is going to be much stronger this year

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #91
    raptors999 wrote: View Post
    Irving should be traded. Rondo + stuff for Irving or to the Knicks. He and his contract doesn't help the Cavs.
    He just got a new contract.. he can't be traded for at least 2 months after the season starts (so around Christmas). If Cleveland doesn't do anything this year I could see Irving being on the block by next summer.

    Comment


    • #92
      Irving is overrated, how was he an All Star Starter? Lowry would be much better for the Cavs..

      Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

      Comment


      • #93
        With James going to Cleveland, Irving will now probably be a perennial all-star. Sucks for Lowry.

        Comment


        • #94
          planetmars wrote: View Post
          With James going to Cleveland, Irving will now probably be a perennial all-star. Sucks for Lowry.
          Worked for Chalmers.

          Comment


          • #95
            JordanMariam14 wrote: View Post
            Irving is overrated, how was he an All Star Starter? Lowry would be much better for the Cavs..

            Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
            This offseason has shown you can get a discount and a better player if you just go after guys who are not coming off rookie deals. Lowry for $6M less per year than Irving is a great example. Parsons and Hayward's deals are examples of overpays, and then Deng and Ariza deals are examples of far less money for arguably better players (at least comparable).

            Comment


            • #96
              planetmars wrote: View Post
              With James going to Cleveland, Irving will now probably be a perennial all-star. Sucks for Lowry.
              Irving was gonna be a perennial all-star regardless. Name-recognition and popularity will do that for you. Plus his game is better suited for the ASG than Lowry's.

              Comment


              • #97
                JordanMariam14 wrote: View Post
                Irving is overrated, how was he an All Star Starter? Lowry would be much better for the Cavs..

                Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
                Irving is the PG version of Demarcus Cousin!

                Comment


                • #98
                  raptors999 wrote: View Post
                  Worked for Chalmers.
                  or more like Mo Williams.

                  Heat already had Bosh and Wade going there.. if they didn't have anybody but James I could see Chalmers getting a lot of votes.

                  Comment


                  • #99
                    Primer wrote: View Post
                    This offseason has shown you can get a discount and a better player if you just go after guys who are not coming off rookie deals. Lowry for $6M less per year than Irving is a great example. Parsons and Hayward's deals are examples of overpays, and then Deng and Ariza deals are examples of far less money for arguably better players (at least comparable).
                    Yeah borderline-stars/psuedo-stars coming off rookie deals always get overpaid coming off rookie deals. That's why it's better to just extend these guys when you have the chance if you have the intention of keeping the player long-term.

                    Comment


                    • IMO, both LBJ and Irving are going to have to learn to share the ball-handling and shot creating duties. I doubt LBJ would have an issue with this, considering he just left a team where he was, for the most part, the only ball handler and shot creator and ultimately lost in the finals. This was probably one of the reasons he left, as Wade had outlived his usefulness as a side-kick, and no one else on the team could handle that role. LBJ doesn't want to do it all himself, and Wiggins obviously isn't ready. It should be interesting to see how LBJ and Irving mesh.

                      Comment


                      • The East is going to be much stronger this year

                        Primer wrote: View Post
                        Irving is the second best player or that team by a country mile. If he goes down, it's like Wade or Bosh (more likely both) going down in Miami. The team struggled mightily when one of the big 3 was out, let alone both.
                        When did they struggle mightily?? They still got 54 wins and that's with wade sitting out half the season.

                        Comment


                        • iblastoff wrote: View Post
                          When did they struggle mightily?? They still got 56 wins and that's with wade sitting out half the season.
                          Did they not fall out of first place while Wade was on the bench? I guess "mightily" was unnecessary, but they definitely struggled without Wade. Losing Irving would be kinda the equivalent of losing both Wade and Bosh though, as Cleveland doesn't have anyone else close to their talents except Irving. Bosh could pick up some of the slack when Wade was out, who does that in Cleveland while Irving is out? Waiters? Yikes......

                          Comment


                          • My Prediction:

                            1. Cavs:

                            Irving / Dellavadova
                            Waiters / M.Miller / Ray Allen ? / Harris / Felix
                            LeBron / Wiggins / Bennett
                            Thompson / Powell
                            Verajao / Haywood

                            2. Bulls

                            D.Rose / Fredette / M.James
                            Hinrich / Snell
                            J.Butler / Dunleavy / McDermott
                            P.Gasol / T.Gibson / Bairstow / Amundson
                            Noah / Mohammed

                            3. Wizards

                            Wall / A.Miller
                            Beal / Temple / Rice
                            Pierce / Webster / Harrington / Porter
                            Nene / Humphries / Singleton / Gooden
                            Gortat / Seraphin

                            4. Raptors

                            Lowry / Vasquez / Buycks
                            DeRozan / L.Williams / Fields
                            Ross / J.Johnson / Caboclo
                            A.Johnson / Patterson / Hayes
                            Valinciunas / Hansborough / Bebe

                            5. Pacers

                            Hill / Watson / Sloan
                            Stevenson / Miles
                            George / R. Butler / S.Hill / Rudez
                            West / Scola / Copeland
                            Hibbert /L. Allen


                            6. Heat

                            Chalmers / Naiper / Cole
                            Wade / Granger / Douglas
                            Deng / Beasely / J.Jones
                            Bosh / McRoberts / Haslem
                            C.Anderson / Oden / Hamilton


                            7. Pistons

                            Jennings / Augustine / R.Stucky / W.Bynum
                            Meeks / Caldwell-Pope / Dinwiddlie
                            J.Smith / C.Butler / T.Mitchell / Singular / Datome
                            Monroe / Jerebko / Villanueva
                            Drummond

                            8. Nets

                            D.Williams / J.Jack / M.Teague / Gutierrez
                            A.Anderson / Karasev / M.Brown
                            J.Johnson / C.Jefferson
                            Garnett / Teletovic / Kirilenko
                            B.Lopez / M.Plumlee / J.Collins

                            9. Knicks

                            Calderon / Larkin / Prigioni
                            JR. Smith / Hardaway / Ellington
                            Anthony / Shumpert / C.Early / Antetokounmpo
                            A.Stoudamire / J. Smith / K.Martin
                            Dalembert / Barganani / Aldrich


                            10. Hawks

                            J.Teague / Mack / Schroder
                            Korver / Sefalosha / L.Patterson
                            Milsap / Caroll / M.Scott / C.Martin
                            Payne / Brand / Ayon
                            Horford / Antic / Tavares / Muscala


                            11. Bucks

                            Knight / Sessions
                            O.J Mayo / Delfino / Wolters
                            J.Parker / G.Antetokounpo / Middleton / Inglis
                            Henson / Ilyasova / Udoh
                            Sandars / Pacullia / Raduljica



                            12 Hornets

                            K.Walker / Ridnour / Pargo
                            Henderson / G.Neal
                            P.J Hairston / J.Taylor / Roberts / Tolliver
                            N.Vonleh / Gilchrist / Zeller / White
                            Al-Jefferson / Biyombo


                            13. Celtics

                            Rondo / Bayless / Thronton / Pressey
                            A.Bradley / Smart / Bogans
                            Green / J.Young / G.Wallace
                            Bass / Sullinger / T.Zeller
                            Olynyk / Faverani / J.Anthony

                            14. Magic

                            E.Payton / Fournier / W.Green
                            Oladipo / B.Gordon / Moore
                            T.Harris / A.Gordon / Harkless / Nicholson
                            C.Frye / O'Quinn / A.Randolph
                            Vucevic / Dedmon


                            15. Sixers

                            M.C.Williams / E.Williams
                            T.Wrotten / James Anderson / McRae / H.Thompson
                            T.Young / K.J Mcdaniels / Jerami Grant
                            D.Saric / Moultrie / Varnado / Davies
                            Embiid / Noel / Sims / Mullens
                            Last edited by rapba; Tue Jul 15, 2014, 08:25 PM.

                            Comment


                            • rapba wrote: View Post
                              My Prediction:

                              1. Cavs:

                              Irving / Dellavadova
                              Waiters / M.Miller / Ray Allen ? / Harris / Felix
                              LeBron / Wiggins / Bennett
                              Thompson / Powell
                              Verajao / Haywood

                              2. Bulls

                              D.Rose / Fredette / M.James
                              Hinrich / Snell
                              J.Butler / Dunleavy / McDermott
                              P.Gasol / T.Gibson / Bairstow / Amundson
                              Noah / Mohammed

                              3. Wizards

                              Wall / A.Miller
                              Beal / Temple / Rice
                              Pierce / Webster / Harrington / Porter
                              Nene / Humphries / Singleton / Gooden
                              Gortat / Seraphin

                              4. Raptors

                              Lowry / Vasquez / Buycks
                              DeRozan / L.Williams / Fields
                              Ross / J.Johnson / Caboclo
                              A.Johnson / Patterson / Hayes
                              Valinciunas / Hansborough / Bebe

                              5. Pacers

                              Hill / Watson / Sloan
                              Stevenson / Miles
                              George / R. Butler / S.Hill / Rudez
                              West / Scola / Copeland
                              Hibbert /L. Allen


                              6. Heat

                              Chalmers / Naiper / Cole
                              Wade / Granger / Douglas
                              Deng / Beasely / J.Jones
                              Bosh / McRoberts / Haslem
                              C.Anderson / Oden / Hamilton


                              7. Pistons

                              Jennings / Augustine / R.Stucky / W.Bynum
                              Meeks / Caldwell-Pope / Dinwiddlie
                              J.Smith / C.Butler / T.Mitchell / Singular / Datome
                              Monroe / Jerebko / Villanueva
                              Drummond

                              8. Nets

                              D.Williams / J.Jack / M.Teague / Gutierrez
                              A.Anderson / Karasev / M.Brown
                              J.Johnson / C.Jefferson
                              Garnett / Teletovic / Kirilenko
                              B.Lopez / M.Plumlee / J.Collins

                              9. Knicks

                              Calderon / Larkin / Prigioni
                              JR. Smith / Hardaway / Ellington
                              Anthony / Shumpert / C.Early / Antetokounmpo
                              A.Stoudamire / K.Martin
                              Dalembert / Barganani / Aldrich


                              10. Hawks

                              J.Teague / Mack / Schroder
                              Korver / Sefalosha / L.Patterson
                              Milsap / Caroll / M.Scott / C.Martin
                              Payne / Brand / Ayon
                              Horford / Antic / Tavares / Muscala


                              11. Bucks

                              Knight / Sessions
                              O.J Mayo / Delfino / Wolters
                              J.Parker / G.Antetokounpo / Middleton / Inglis
                              Henson / Ilyasova / Udoh
                              Sandars / Pacullia / Raduljica



                              12 Hornets

                              K.Walker / Ridnour / Pargo
                              Henderson / G.Neal
                              P.J Hairston / J.Taylor / Roberts / Tolliver
                              N.Vonleh / Gilchrist / Zeller / White
                              Al-Jefferson / Biyombo


                              13. Celtics

                              Rondo / Bayless / Thronton / Pressey
                              A.Bradley / Smart / Bogans
                              Green / J.Young / G.Wallace
                              Bass / Sullinger / T.Zeller
                              Olynyk / Faverani / J.Anthony

                              14. Magic

                              E.Payton / Fournier / W.Green
                              Oladipo / B.Gordon / Moore
                              T.Harris / A.Gordon / Harkless / Nicholson
                              C.Frye / O'Quinn / A.Randolph
                              Vucevic / Dedmon


                              15. Sixers

                              M.C.Williams / E.Williams
                              T.Wrotten / James Anderson / McRae / H.Thompson
                              T.Young / K.J Mcdaniels / Jerami Grant
                              D.Saric / Moultrie / Varnado / Davies
                              Embiid / Noel / Sims / Mullens
                              That Cavs roster looks incredibly thin outside Lebron and Irving. I don't see how they could possibly be the top seed.
                              Hawks at 10 seems a little ridiculous considering they didn't lose anyone, and are adding Horford back plus some good defenders from free agency.
                              The Knicks are going to be abysmally bad. That roster straight up sucks.
                              No idea how the Pistons make that jump when they're returning essentially the exact same dysfunctional roster.
                              The Nets have gotten worse losing Pierce, not even sure if they're still a playoff team.
                              No love for Charlotte either is a bit harsh.

                              My prediction:
                              1. Bulls
                              2. Raptors
                              3. Pacers
                              4. Wizards
                              5. Cavaliers
                              6. Hawks
                              7. Heat
                              8. Hornets

                              I expect it to be a fairly tight race too (all teams records relatively close). Not sure that a sub .500 team makes the playoffs in the East this year.

                              Comment


                              • Primer wrote: View Post
                                Did they not fall out of first place while Wade was on the bench? I guess "mightily" was unnecessary, but they definitely struggled without Wade. Losing Irving would be kinda the equivalent of losing both Wade and Bosh though, as Cleveland doesn't have anyone else close to their talents except Irving. Bosh could pick up some of the slack when Wade was out, who does that in Cleveland while Irving is out? Waiters? Yikes......
                                Yeah, but there's also more supplemental talent. Irving at this point is better than Wade, and they don't have a Bosh. But having Waiters, Thompson, Wiggins, Varajao, Bennett should give them enough supplemental talent to keep them alive while waiting for Irving to come back.
                                @Boymusic66

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X