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    Quote stooley wrote: View Post
    The most entertaining and likely (imo) path to a contender:

    1. Get as close to a contender as possible.
    2. Maintain flexibility.
    3. Sustain that play over years.
    4. Hope for a breakthrough from a development, coaching, drafting, free agency perspective that pushes you over the top.

    In the end, you have to get lucky to win a championship, and I think that's as good a path as any. Plus it's more fun to watch a competitive team try and make that leap year in year out, than to watch the tank-contend cycle.

    What it comes down to is that there is NO surefire way of winning a championship, any number of things outside of your control can derail a meticulous strategy.
    In agreement. There are so many factors to consider. It is not out of the realm of possibility that we could go to NBA finals next year. JV is the key--if he continues to progress like the end of last season. Also if TR goes MIA in playoffs JJ could prove highly valuable.

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    I really don't think Durant is going to sign here, it just doesn't make any sense. Pretty much every major market team will have significant cap space that year, as well as many other teams in the league. Signing Durant is a pipe-dream.

    Now with that in mind, how do we build a title contender?
    This is how you build a contender.


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    because there are tons of teams that qualify as that.

    and a lot that are closer to being a contender, and a lot with more proven track records.

    washington is in pretty much the exact same spot as the raptors except they made the 2nd round last year and are Durant's hometown.
    Washington's frontcourt is iffy. Nene , Hump, Blair and Gortat are hanging on by a string. Add Paul Pierce and by 2016 Wiz could be bad. They went all in for 2015 and they were barely over .500 last season.

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    Quote stooley wrote: View Post
    because there are tons of teams that qualify as that.

    and a lot that are closer to being a contender, and a lot with more proven track records.

    washington is in pretty much the exact same spot as the raptors except they made the 2nd round last year and are Durant's hometown.
    A ton of teams are opening up cap space for 2016. A ton. "We've got cap space, a promising core, and a franchise KD kind of likes!" sounds like it describes several teams already.

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    A ton of teams are opening up cap space for 2016. A ton. "We've got cap space, a promising core, and a franchise KD kind of likes!" sounds like it describes several teams already.
    The only teams that have a good chance will be top two each conference. Outside chance top four. That means only 8 teams have a chance and not all will have cap space or the upside. Teams outside the top four seeds have no chance.

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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    The only teams that have a good chance will be top two each conference. Outside chance top four. That means only 8 teams have a chance and not all will have cap space or the upside. Teams outside the top four seeds have no chance.
    Really? Tell that to LeBron.

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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    The only teams that have a good chance will be top two each conference. Outside chance top four. That means only 8 teams have a chance and not all will have cap space or the upside. Teams outside the top four seeds have no chance.
    I'd respectfully disagree. 'Melo, Bosh, and Lebron all just shunned teams with better records for teams with worse records (or about to have worse records, in Bosh's case), for a variety of reasons. KD will believe he'll be able to take a number of decent teams over the top, not only the top couple seeds.

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    Quote S.R. wrote: View Post
    I'd respectfully disagree. 'Melo, Bosh, and Lebron all just shunned teams with better records for teams with worse records (or about to have worse records, in Bosh's case), for a variety of reasons. KD will believe he'll be able to take a number of decent teams over the top, not only the top couple seeds.
    Melo went for the money. Bosh resigned to a city he likes. LeBron went back to the first city who drafted him and his home city. If Durant has to choose between OKC or a non- top 2 team he'll go back to OKC and make the max. Taking less money for a non - top team makes little sense.

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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    Melo went for the money. Bosh resigned to a city he likes. LeBron went back to the first city who drafted him and his home city. If Durant has to choose between OKC or a non- top 2 team he'll go back to OKC and make the max. Taking less money for a non - top team makes little sense.
    how is 'KD going back to his home city" ala lebron outside the realm of possibility? especially with the wizards on the rise and arguably way closer to contending than the cavs were before lebron re-signed.

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    Quote iblastoff wrote: View Post
    how is 'KD going back to his home city" ala lebron outside the realm of possibility? especially with the wizards on the rise and arguably way closer to contending than the cavs were before lebron re-signed.
    Isn't but he never played for Washington as a pro. LeBron returning is different than Durant. Durant has no relationships with the Wizards as a player.

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    Isn't but he never played for Washington as a pro. LeBron returning is different than Durant. Durant has no relationships with the Wizards as a player.
    But it's his hometown? Sure, he hasn't played for them, but there's still quite a lot of incentive for him to go back.

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    Quote phiLLy wrote: View Post
    But it's his hometown? Sure, he hasn't played for them, but there's still quite a lot of incentive for him to go back.
    No relationship with Wizards management. LeBron knew people in the organization, Durant doesn't. If Washington is .500 in 2016 then their chances of landing Durant would be worse than OKC.

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    No relationship with Wizards management. LeBron knew people in the organization, Durant doesn't. If Washington is .500 in 2016 then their chances of landing Durant would be worse than OKC.
    Washington hired his high school assistant coach. and KD is extremely loyal to his mentors as evidence by the number he wears.

    Lebron went home DESPITE knowing the management. Although besides Gilbert I'm not sure what other relationship he would have with that new rookie coach and GM.

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    Washington hired his high school assistant coach. and KD is extremely loyal to his mentors as evidence by the number he wears.

    Lebron went home DESPITE knowing the management. Although besides Gilbert I'm not sure what other relationship he would have with that new rookie coach and GM.
    LeBron went back for Iguaskas' number retirement. Varejao is still on the team. He and Gilbert were together for five years. This includes all of the people surrounding LeBron all of whom were part of the Cav organization. Durant is from Washington but he doesn't have the ties that LeBrton had. If Cleveland didn't draft LeBron he might never have returned.

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    We're building a contender. If memory serves, we were the #3 team in the East. If we win the Atlantic again, we're assured homecourt in the first round. There's so much parity compared to last season that reaching the ECF is a realistic goal. Stop hugging Durant's jock. The guy's under contract for at least 2 more years. Two more years if pining away over Durant? Seriously?

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post
    Read the comments.

    Every second one is Raptors 2016.

    lol

    Dude is going to have a very difficult 2 years.

    Will probably make LeBron's lead up to 2010 look mild in comparison.
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    Why don't we see how TRoss develops this year - the age group of JV ,DD and TRoss is a very rare blend of talent. The bench of GV JJ, and PP is sufficient. Personally , would like to keep Amir Johnson as a backup center on a 3/17 million after this year. In 2015 resign a upper level PF for around 4/46 .
    The 2015 1st round pick should be for a Pg to replace GV as a backup in the following year. Additionally, a SHooting Guard for extra offense similar to what Lou Williams will be required to do this year.

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    Don't forget Lou ! GV/Lou/Landry/2Pat/Hayes. Thats probably one of the best benches in East
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