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    Default Being opportunistic with the IND situation

    Now that PG24 is out and with the loss of Lance, it would be wise for IND to trade their aging David West with 2 years 24 Mil left in his contract. its a big IF but IF they do throw the towel in next season and put West in the trade market, should the Raps make a play for him?

    i think he will be a great fit with this group. A great vet with still game in his tank and might JUST put us over the top to may be reach ECF.

    its completely just a speculation and it doesn't hurt discussing during the basketball low point that is the off season.

    Also, if we are going to get him what do you guys think it will take for us to get him?

    Discuss..

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    Not sure I want to pay $12mm a year for a marginal upgrade who is turning 34 this month.

    If we're going to make moves, we either need to make small, shrewd, opportunistic moves or massive, powerhouse moves. The in-between stuff is quite often too high a risk for too small a reward.

    I think the only piece on Indy that might be a nice fit for us is Ian Mahinmi. Vet backup C with solid defense and playoff experience.

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    Quote Scraptor wrote: View Post
    I think the only piece on Indy that might be a nice fit for us is Ian Mahinmi. Vet backup C with solid defense and playoff experience.
    If they're tanking, I don't see what's wrong with a straight up chuck for mahimi swap.

    They get an expiring while we get a solid backup. All kinda depends on how bebe plays though...
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    Chucky and Laundry plus a first for David West. or trade for Luis Scola and start Patrick Patterson. Prefer West for Offense.

    Than you move your minutes for Amir to backup center for JV. David West and PP at power forward and JV and Amir at center with Pyscho as the 5 th member for injury minutes. Than in 2016 the team can reload their Pg and Power forward position if they wish.

    Leadership from David West in conjunction with Lowry and Amir if you wish to extend him as the back up for JV. can you extend Amir for two years at 2/12 as in reality Amir is no longer a starter.

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    Toronto has trouble feeding the low post. Either they aren't able or willing. Using West in the high post with JV might work. If West makes Hibbert useful in the low post then JV could really dominant.

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    I don't really like this move if it happened

    He doesn't fit with this teams offense really. We are a young team, and while West is great in the halfcourt system, he isn't a transition guy. He doesn't space the floor that allows JV to go to work, or let DD & Lowry slash. Plus, West would be tired from running pindowns all game for DD & Ross.

    I like Kevin Love, he fits in the teams approach, but thats a risky move.
    I like Kevin Durant, cause he's an obvious need at SF and he's Durant, but it will be hard to pry him from OKC.
    I like Harrison Barnes, because he's someone that could be had for cheaper than his value, and could be an impact player at SF.
    I like Tobias Harris, and he could be had for cheap because he's stuck in a crowded frontcourt in Orlando.

    Moves like these have the potential for impacts, and help us right away to be honest.

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    In hindsight, trading Granger away looks like an even bigger mistake. I feel terrible for George and wish him a full & speedy recovery. The loss of an all-star is always easier when your team has depth. I hope he'll be ready to go in 2015-2016. #redwhiteandbleed

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    Barnes or Harris- what players or picks would you trade for either of these players.

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    Will DeMar make the Usa team now that Pg's out? He played well in the scrimmage and plays similar to George.

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    Quote A_magic_head wrote: View Post
    Will DeMar make the Usa team now that Pg's out? He played well in the scrimmage and plays similar to George.
    Demar isn't an elite defender like George, nor is he an elite 3 point shooter, but he is a very dynamic offensive player. He showcased that by scoring 16 points during the USAB showcase.

    I think that Derozan can make the team, but I don't think that he would be a starter. I think that if anything, DD would come off the bench as a 6th man to provide a lethal scoring punch. Then again, I would love to see Derozan playing his heart out on both ends of the floor and starting at the SF spot.

    I would go for Mahinmi as a backup. He is a terrific backup big.

    I wouldn't go for West because Patterson has the same sort of game, and if anything, we need a back-to-the-basket PF/C who can be a threat from the low post. JV and Amir are both solid at this, but I am hoping that they can improve their production in the paint this coming season.
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    Man the Pacers will suck big time, I don't see them making the playoff this year and might be in the lottery

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    Quote Scraptor wrote: View Post
    Not sure I want to pay $12mm a year for a marginal upgrade who is turning 34 this month.

    If we're going to make moves, we either need to make small, shrewd, opportunistic moves or massive, powerhouse moves. The in-between stuff is quite often too high a risk for too small a reward.

    I think the only piece on Indy that might be a nice fit for us is Ian Mahinmi. Vet backup C with solid defense and playoff experience.
    Agreed. Too much money for marginal gains.

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    Quote tenforthewin wrote: View Post
    Man the Pacers will suck big time, I don't see them making the playoff this year and might be in the lottery
    We should be a lock for top 4 seed if not higher depending upon Dereick Roae and Cavs.

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    Quote psrs1 wrote: View Post
    We should be a lock for top 4 seed if not higher depending upon Dereick Roae and Cavs.
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    Quote 2kfeen wrote: View Post
    I don't really like this move if it happened

    He doesn't fit with this teams offense really. We are a young team, and while West is great in the halfcourt system, he isn't a transition guy. He doesn't space the floor that allows JV to go to work, or let DD & Lowry slash. Plus, West would be tired from running pindowns all game for DD & Ross.

    I like Kevin Love, he fits in the teams approach, but thats a risky move.
    I like Kevin Durant, cause he's an obvious need at SF and he's Durant, but it will be hard to pry him from OKC.
    I like Harrison Barnes, because he's someone that could be had for cheaper than his value, and could be an impact player at SF.
    I like Tobias Harris, and he could be had for cheap because he's stuck in a crowded frontcourt in Orlando.

    Moves like these have the potential for impacts, and help us right away to be honest.
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    This whole topic is reality, but shit I don't want to talk about this topic until a month passes because it will totally kill all the karma we built up last year.

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    If Indiana decides they want to still try to compete this year, they can apply for a disabled player exception, giving them a $5.4 million exception, and then sign a free agent to a 1 year deal... unfortunately, they missed most of the free agent market, but someone like Shawn Marion might be a fit.
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    Quote octothorp wrote: View Post
    If Indiana decides they want to still try to compete this year, they can apply for a disabled player exception, giving them a $5.4 million exception, and then sign a free agent to a 1 year deal... unfortunately, they missed most of the free agent market, but someone like Shawn Marion might be a fit.
    Yeah, but George's full salary still counts against the cap and tax, so since they are about $2M clear of the tax now, do you really think ownership pays that much to maybe add a mediocre player to slightly increase their chances of making the playoffs this year?

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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    Yeah, but George's full salary still counts against the cap and tax, so since they are about $2M clear of the tax now, do you really think ownership pays that much to maybe add a mediocre player to slightly increase their chances of making the playoffs this year?
    Are you sure about that.. if I interpret the CBA faq it seems to me that if a team files for a DPE that players salary is not on the books for that year:

    Don't confuse the Disabled Player exception with the salary cap relief teams sometimes receive after losing a player to a career-ending injury or death (see question number 63). The Disabled Player exception allows a team to acquire a replacement player. The salary cap relief removes a contract from the team's books.
    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25
    So if I'm reading this right the Pacers cap situation can come down from $74.8M to $64.1M (they hypothetically lose George's $16M salary and gain the Non-tax payer mid-level of $5.3M). The team would still have to pay PG his salary but I don't think it would be considered for tax purposes.

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