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    I think eventually like probably next season the starting gig will be 2pat's but for now u gotta stick with Amir
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    So much disrespect for amir. Of course you have to go back to him, not to mention he's still a better all around player than Patrick Patterson when healthy. As long as he quits shooting 3s and crashes the boards id still put a healthy amir as one of the 3 most important players on the team. He was nowhere near healthy in the Brooklyn series, so they definitely need to monitor his minutes.

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    Quote KeonClark wrote: View Post
    So much disrespect for amir. Of course you have to go back to him, not to mention he's still a better all around player than Patrick Patterson when healthy. As long as he quits shooting 3s and crashes the boards id still put a healthy amir as one of the 3 most important players on the team. He was nowhere near healthy in the Brooklyn series, so they definitely need to monitor his minutes.
    I don't think that people are advocating for Amir to come off the bench due to any disrespect. In fact, I think its because everyone knows how valuable he is to the Raptors' success. Remember, he was having the game of his life in Game 7 of the Nets-Raps series until fouls(refs) took him out of the game. Until Lowry and (partially) Demar came alive in the 4th, Amir was the best Raptor player on the floor.

    And yes, the key to this discussion is Amir's health, and that should be the priority. We are deep at the 4 spot, and if Amir needs to rest, we do have Patterson and Hansbrough as backups. Nonetheless, the objective should be to enter the postseason with a healthy squad.
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    Patterson has missed 28 games over the past two seasons. Amir has missed 6.

    I'm all for preserving Amir's health and splitting the minutes close to down the middle but you can do that without taking Amir out of the starting line up that achieved so much success last season after the Rudy Gay trade. If the first 20 games plays out and you need to make a move… do it then. You don't just swap guys in and out of the starting line up on a whim when it's not broken.
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    Quote Fully wrote: View Post
    Patterson has missed 28 games over the past two seasons. Amir has missed 6.

    I'm all for preserving Amir's health and splitting the minutes close to down the middle but you can do that without taking Amir out of the starting line up that achieved so much success last season after the Rudy Gay trade. If the first 20 games plays out and you need to make a move… do it then. You don't just swap guys in and out of the starting line up on a whim when it's not broken.
    Just because Amir played more games, doesn't mean he was healthy that entire time. The number of games that Amir has played through what appear to be badly twisted ankles or other ailments...incredible! The man feels super human in how he deals with injury, but his impact isn't what nearly what it is when he is fully healthy.

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    All I'm saying is that removing a better player and a proven fit in Amir from the starting lineup in order to start Patterson under the guise that it's to keep Amir healthy when PP has actually proven to be the more injury prone player seems like everyone is trying to get a little too fancy. This line up was very good last year. Top 10 offence and a Top 10 defence, no? I'm all for Patterson getting plenty of minutes this season too, hopefully whatever it takes in order to keep Amir fresh for the stretch run, but he can do it off the pine. And really, Why not keep PP in the role that he excelled in as well?

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    And I won't even touch the comments asking for James Johnson in the starting line up from day one.

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    As much as you guys think that patterson will start over amir, its not gonna happen. it will be the same starting line up as last year mainly because Amir is better difender than pat, and u know casey is all about defense first.

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    same as last year with ross not starting against the bigger 3s I am more interested how the bench flows with the addition of lou

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    A better question is which 2 will be in street clothes.

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    I would've thought it was pretty obviously the same 5 as last year, although I can kind of see why people may want to go with Patterson. I think Amir is slightly better when healthy though, better rim protector. I felt Patterson struggled rebounding the ball at times, and he just seems like a good guy to come off the bench and provide some points, spacing, defense and high IQ basketball. Amir and Patterson also played extreeeeeeeemely well together, so I hope there is quite a bit of that as well, although it will be interesting to see how they manage the front court minutes.
    Ross obviously starts over Johnson, like wtf.

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    fields may be showcased at the two after {if he recovers his shooting touch] for trade senario's
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    Love Amir. If we had more depth at center, I would definitely start Amir over Pats.

    Amir will, inevitably, have to guard other teams 5's. Expecting him to start but also back-up JV in must win situations seems like a lot to saddle on one guy, that's all.

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    i wonder how many minutes the 3rd string guys will actually get. 3rd PF might see some minutes. 3rd SF will get "once in a blue moon" minutes. 3rd C ... hmm ... that's difficult. if Nogueira had opted to play with the Brazilian national team this summer, he might have made a case for 2nd C. Hayes is gonna get his minutes because coach Casey likes him so much. 3rd SG? is that Ross or Cherry?

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    I can't see Amir being taken out of the starting line up yet. JV isn't ready to carry the defensive load yet, as he would have to do with PPat.

    If DD can improve his man to man coverage and prevent blow bys it'd definitely improve the likelihood of PPat starting but I don't see it right away.

    I like PPat as the first big off the bench, take JV out and have Amir move to the 5. I guess for Amir's sake Casey will need to keep him around the 25-28 minutes per game range but that will obviously be heavily dependent on match ups.

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    Quote godkingleonidas wrote: View Post
    i wonder how many minutes the 3rd string guys will actually get. 3rd PF might see some minutes. 3rd SF will get "once in a blue moon" minutes. 3rd C ... hmm ... that's difficult. if Nogueira had opted to play with the Brazilian national team this summer, he might have made a case for 2nd C. Hayes is gonna get his minutes because coach Casey likes him so much. 3rd SG? is that Ross or Cherry?
    I'd think you platoon most of the backup SG minutes between GV and Williams, basically. It's a little complex though. Lowry, GV, and Williams can all play PG or off the ball, DD is left in with the bench sometimes, and TR can slide over to the 2 as needed. That's 5 players who can play SG depending on match-ups and situational needs. Cherry will see the floor about as much as De Colo, Buycks, and Stone did last year.

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    Would trade Amir Johnson plus 1st round for Greg Monroe and filler to mke it work financially

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    We need to keep the same starting 5 as last year. Lowry-DD-Ross-Amir-Big Val

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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    Lowry/DeRozan/Johnson/Patterson/Valanciunas

    no way James Johnson starts. he's only there for matchup issues which is only a few teams. Ross is the future and this will only improve when there young players start playing consistent. JV,Ross

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    Quote rightsideup wrote: View Post
    same as last year with ross not starting against the bigger 3s I am more interested how the bench flows with the addition of lou
    Ross started in every single game after Rudy was traded, did he not?
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