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    Chris Bosh warned teams not to expect a quick decision regarding his future when the July 1 free agency negotiation period opens.

    ``I think it's going to drag out for a while,'' Bosh said before Sunday's game against the Heat. ``There are so many possibilities and scenarios, with guys staying with their own teams and trying to get other guys [to sign].

    ``You have to look at combinations and possibilities of what could happen. So I don't expect it to be over too quickly.''
    ``The money is going to be the same, no matter where I go,'' Bosh said. ``It's about winning. I'm finishing my seventh year. Contending for a championship is all I want. I never made it past the first round. I just want to be a contender.''
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    Considering Toronto isn't going to be a contender anytime soon this just further established the inevitable:

    Raptors general manager Bryan Colangelo said he would entertain sign-and-trade proposals if Bosh wants to leave.

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    Enjoy the next 10 games Raptors fans because it will be the last ones we ever see Bosh in a Raptors uniform.

    OK, 14 games if we mysteriously make it into the playoffs.

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    Yes, sure looks that way. Shame really.

    I still don't understand why Colangelo threw away his only leverage in negotiations ... because I don't think Bosh is giving up that money.

    It was a grave mistake to be so open about his willingness to make a sign and trade.

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    I don't think it matters. Get something for him or don't get something for him? I think every GM in the league is assuming that he would like to do a S&T if Bosh wants out. He's just stating the obvious.

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    I don't think it matters. Get something for him or don't get something for him? I think every GM in the league is assuming that he would like to do a S&T if Bosh wants out. He's just stating the obvious.
    I disagree, I think Colangelo could have played hard ball and told every team that he wouldn't consent to a sign and trade.

    Bosh only leaves Toronto if he is willing to give up $30+ million. Then wait and see whether he'll do that or not.

    I think that gamble is a better risk/reward option than what Colangelo is going to get offered in a sign and trade for Bosh.

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    GMs aren't stupid. BC letting Bosh go for nothing is stupid. Other GMs thinking BC would let Bosh go for nothing is stupid. Bosh leaving $30 mil dollars off the table is stupid. I think BC just stated the obvious, otherwise the media would have flared up with, "Is Colangelo really not going to sign and trade Bosh?"

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    Bosh isn't going to sign long term in a place he knows he's not going to be happy in. $30M is a lot of money but when other teams can offer him $80M and a championship, which is he going to choose? When the chips are all on the table he's going to pick happiness. He's defined happiness as winning and I think Colangelo has established quiet clearly that he's incapable of making a contender any time soon.

    Bosh wants to win. He's going to get paid a ridiculous amount wherever he is. He's got the upper hand. Colangelo has no leverage. Colangelo is the one left empty handed if he plays hardball, Bosh still ends up with a huge guaranteed contract and a dream location(hello, Miami). Colangelo has everything to lose in this, not Bosh. Lose his star player for nothing and then probably go on to lose his job within the year that follows. Of course he's willing to do a S&T. I think it goes without saying across the league, he says it to the media so Casual Joe Fan on the street understands the situation and isn't mislead by something the media misinterpreted.
    Last edited by Apollo; Mon Mar 29th, 2010 at 03:28 PM.

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    Colangelo's job should be tied to what happens with Chris Bosh.

    If Bosh just bolts without an adequate sign and trade, I don''t see one good reason as to why Colangelo should stay as a G.M.

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    yes 14 more games to go =D

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    I disagree, $30 million is a lot of leverage. It takes a great deal for someone to walk away from that type of money.

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    Quote Dave wrote: View Post
    I disagree, $30 million is a lot of leverage. It takes a great deal for someone to walk away from that type of money.
    Hedont' Pizza Pizza $50M + Andrea "Hitman or Missman" Bargnani $50M = Stuck in mediocre limbo = A great deal

    Fingers crossed, Andrea progresses but right now he's not exactly a selling point and HPP needs no explanation.
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    How many NBA players in the last decade have given up $10 million or more in order to play in a better situation?

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    If Colangelo had of played hard ball with Chris Bosh I think the Raptors would have been his most likely destination. There still would been a strong likelihood of him leaving but I believe Toronto would been the most likely individual team to land him.

    Without that incentive, the $30 million, I think Miami becomes Chris Bosh's most likely destination. I think Chicago is the second most likely landing spot. Meanwhile, the Raptors stand in third place and the minute NY convinces another free agent to take a max contract they'll pass out Toronto too.

    And that doesn't even include the possibility of some team like Houston or Oklahoma getting involved in a sign and trade because they can lap out the Raptors too.

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    Quote Dave wrote: View Post
    How many NBA players in the last decade have given up $10 million or more in order to play in a better situation?
    Shaq is the only one I can think of.......... so good point!
    When Tom Chambers dunks an NBA player gets their hops...

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    Quote Hotshot wrote: View Post
    Colangelo's job should be tied to what happens with Chris Bosh.

    If Bosh just bolts without an adequate sign and trade, I don''t see one good reason as to why Colangelo should stay as a G.M.
    i disagree, bosh is turning into vc right before he was ready to leave. whining and shit, it's pathetic get the fuck off my team if you don't want to be... ah, for frig sakes bosh you make me so angry i forgot what i was going to say, you pathetic person, you disgust me.

    pardon my french.

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    When it all comes down to it, do we really think Bosh is going to want an extra 10+ Million dollars in his contract, or a CHAMPIONSHIP? Which is more important to him?

    He's already rich.

    I can see him saying "F*** the money" (It's not like there's much difference between 20 and 30 million dollars... after a certain point, you're just "rich" and stop caring about EXACTLY how many MILLIONS you have).

    Not that I'm speaking from experience. But if there's a chance for Bosh to be holding a trophy in a years time, I'd say he's willing to sacrifice a LOT to get there.

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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    i disagree, bosh is turning into vc right before he was ready to leave. whining and shit, it's pathetic get the fuck off my team if you don't want to be... ah, for frig sakes bosh you make me so angry i forgot what i was going to say, you pathetic person, you disgust me.

    pardon my french.
    How is CB turning into VC?! Not even close my friend. Try again. Is it not understandable that a top 5 player in the league would want to compete for a title after 7 YEARS of mostly mediocrity? After watching the Raps this past season I totally understand why CB would want to jump ship and play for a legit team. I really hope Dino fans don't turn into douchebags and boo him when he makes his return to T Dot, just cuz he choose to leave.

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    Entertain? Um, it's not up to you at that point BC. You're lucky if some other team is willing to give up more than a first rounder and a has-been at that point.

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    Quote Dave wrote: View Post
    How many NBA players in the last decade have given up $10 million or more in order to play in a better situation?
    How many NBA players have stuck with a below-average team for 6 years in a row when never having gotten past the first-round?

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    Multiple teams vieing for Bosh's services would do a world of good to the exchange of talent coming back.

    As has been noted a while back, this is going to be one intense poker game...Bosh on the one hand dealing with the extras available from the Raps (and s&t) vs. just walking ...and BC taking it to the brink, reading the tea leaves correctly and making the trade (not daring CB to walk leaving the cash on the table).

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