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thead wrote: View PostI think Atlanta is in a holding pattern until their ownership sitch is sorted out.
I think the trade route makes sense as it allows us to stay over the cap. Clearing space for a straight up signing doesn't make sense long term.
I think you gauge the interest in resigning with the agent and make a move on, I would say Millsap over Horford for durability issues. But I would take either, and then McHappy is right, we essentially have 3 all stars with a fourth on the waymcHAPPY wrote: View PostFirst off, we need to come to the realization Ross is not a SF - he plays one but he isn't.
DD can play SF allowing two PG lineups with Lowry/GV/Williams.
JJ is small forward. You can now keep Hamilton (hypothetically if trade was made before regular season). Fields is still there and a useful defensive player.
Bruno is the real deal in 2 years and Al will be 30. You realize Horford is 28, right? He is 11 months older than Amir.
Horford is a legit all-star when healthy. He pushes the needle.
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Mindlessness wrote: View PostI like Bruno a LOT. But I doubting the prospect that he's for sure a quality starter in two years. Not because he can't be. But because I'm not putting all my eggs in a 19-year-old who has just become a millionaire.
Bruno will be more than capable starter around a potential lineup of Lowry, dd, horford, and JV.
All he needs to do is defend and stick open 3s.
That goes for a lot of guys actually.
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Heatdreamer wrote: View PostAmir+ TRoss+ Hayes +1st round picking = Carroll+ Horford+Payne
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But we need good defence. Taj would just take more touches than Amir, which would mean even less for JV.
Amir doesn't need plays for him, he's good at being the 5th option and putbacks and such.
We need defence from PF, which he gives.The name's Bond, James Bond.
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostI like Al Horford as well, but signing him would constitue the biggest signing in Raptors history wouldn't it? I don't know if we are still that attractive a team for players yet. Would an Amir for Taj Gibson trade work? Taj is not as good defensively, but better on offense.
Worked well with Lowry
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostI like Al Horford as well, but signing him would constitue the biggest signing in Raptors history wouldn't it? I don't know if we are still that attractive a team for players yet. Would an Amir for Taj Gibson trade work? Taj is not as good defensively, but better on offense.Last edited by white men can't jump; Mon Oct 20, 2014, 08:53 PM.
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Taj is definitely touted as a defensive player. Can't really say how he compares to Amir because I haven't watched that much of the Bulls or really paid attention to Taj. I was on Blog a Bull and apparently he's somewhat of a black hole on offense; apparently he doesn't really like to pass out of double teams.
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Taj has looked great defensively. And he's a downgrade offensively from Amir, since we already have a post threat in JV. He is elite with the help D though.
But he's played for years in Thibs' system. I am always leery of taking players out of elite systems and expecting them to perform up to those standards. There's a reason teams never win in trades with the Spurs - not only are the Spurs real smart about who they trade and acquire, players just look better there than they would anywhere else.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostI'm not sure this is true at all. Taj is a better creator in the post (as a scorer)...but it's not like he's dominant, or even very efficient. I always thought Taj's value was mostly on the defensive end. He may even be better than Amir there.
Secondly, I wasn't saying Taj is a bad defender. He is quite good, but you put Amir on that roster and into coach Thib's system and I think Amir is the better defender.
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DanH wrote: View PostTaj has looked great defensively. And he's a downgrade offensively from Amir, since we already have a post threat in JV. He is elite with the help D though.
But he's played for years in Thibs' system. I am always leery of taking players out of elite systems and expecting them to perform up to those standards. There's a reason teams never win in trades with the Spurs - not only are the Spurs real smart about who they trade and acquire, players just look better there than they would anywhere else.
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